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in the 1930s president franklin delano

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roosevelt addressed the nation through a

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series of radio broadcasts known as the

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his aim was to reassure the common man

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that our society would recover from its

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well we're far from 1930 and i deal with

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a different kind of fire

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for a new era of worldly frustration we

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offer a fresh conversation

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i'm greg carlwood and these are the

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rock me like a hurricane higher side

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chatters how the hell are you from sunny

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san diego i'm greg carlwood just trying

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to navigate the vast and choppy

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a task not made easy by our highly

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troubled times but as they say

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this too shall pass yet some mysteries

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seem damn near eternal why is our planet

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so radically rich with life compared to

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why are we human so exponentially

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different from every other living being

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reality why does our dna

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always be worthy of an exploration

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because i fear that the puzzle may never

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but there is a good case to be made that

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while we're told human progress has been

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cosmic custodians or leaders depicted in

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ways that seem more than human

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good luck understanding the end of a

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well today we have with us bruce fenton

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a very savvy human story reconstructor

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these questions for quite some time

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story that are known as anomalies

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high strangeness stuff we tend to like

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bruce and daniela have traveled the

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world taking expeditions to wherever the

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mystery takes them

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forgotten exodus the into africa theory

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hybrid humans scientific evidence of our

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humans

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a scientific history of extraterrestrial

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while i could not be more sight to get

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into this and ancient aliens acolyte

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deep history detective and human story

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sage bruce fenton welcome to the higher

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thank you so much greg i really

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appreciate that intros very good

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overview of the whole topic

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and look forward to it look forward to

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getting down into the data

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and the weirdness of all yes man this is

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a long time coming

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show for a while and it's finally come

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but the timing is great because i really

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show maybe i'll pass on this one but man

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you do not just retread the old ancient

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you fold in so much more and i know

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people are going to love

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people a sort of overview of how you

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there's a huge mystery there in which

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that we have emerged from geological and

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we haven't got to replicate it in any

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the very foundations of this story are

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intelligently directed seeding of life

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panspermia model which has been largely

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the main figure in that discussion

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intelligent the reason i say that is

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planet around about 4.5 billion years

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flourishes right now if you consider

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a billion years of random events

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that's wrong we found fossils that are

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it's unlikely we found the oldest

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fossils and so they assume that they

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incredibly convenient it just happens to

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it's been deliberately seeded you know

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when the plant is ready life is seeded

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this is a creation story you know god

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you know waiver the magic hand or

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whatever and then conversely the a

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biogenesis people will

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die hardly you know doggedly stick to

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their model

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and at the moment you can't really say

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anyone wins i just think the logic

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better supports this model we can go

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from from that

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into you know a ongoing relationship

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that i see existing with intelligences

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from beyond this planet yes i'm glad you

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stopped there because that's exactly

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what i was going to bring up next of

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course

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the first chapter of any good story is

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interesting but it is just the first

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chapter

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and sometimes the insinuation is that we

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are the product of a handful of events

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that are so old

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that they have no real connection to our

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times except to say that

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humans spiraled out of them hundreds of

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thousands of years ago

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but i find it much more intriguing that

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we are in some sort of

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cosmic zoo or alien energy farm

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or just that modern alien abductions and

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craft sightings are very much related

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to human origins that there is some

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involvement from these beings still

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and that seems to be something you

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entertain as well right

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absolutely i think that the best

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visualization for people use is that of

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a garden

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you know that you go out and you plant

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various

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different trees and shrubs and

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vegetables in your garden

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and you tend it but you don't spend all

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day every day 24 7 out in your garden

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right you know you leave

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some fertilizers you do certain things

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you tend to you may

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cross species with each other you know

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produce you know particular types of

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flowers and the rest we know that we do

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all this in our gardens

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there is that ongoing kind of you know

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let's remove a weed this plant on the

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planet and that's how i look at earth i

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think that what we have here is after

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this seeding event

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that at least one intelligence i would

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suggest more than one intelligence

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is taking an interesting progression of

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life on this planet

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we see certain events for example the

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cambrian explosion which has been

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highlighted as anomalous

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that mesh very well with the idea of

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sort of temporally spaced intercessions

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into our story where we have

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what we call singer and his colleagues

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suggest is a moment where

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new information enters the evolutionary

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system

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most likely through a retrovirus

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coming from space infecting life on our

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planet at that time

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bringing new information into the system

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and that's why we have this sudden

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explosion of new organisms appearing in

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the fossil record without precursors

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and this has long been a point of debate

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between creationists and

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the materialists and so on as to what is

364
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actually going on in that moment

365
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well the one thing we say for sure is

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there's new information you know

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evolution

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producing new life forms requires some

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kind of new information in the system

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where is that coming from vikram

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singer's argument is the best you know

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coming from outside unless there's a

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miraculous occurrence here then it must

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be coming from somewhere i.e

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outside and a modified or a natural

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virus is the best way of explaining this

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i would suggest here again

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that unlike his contention that it's

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perhaps just random

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arrival of dust carrying viruses that

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again i see this more likely to be

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deliberate that we have these moments

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where modified retroviruses

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are seeded into the upper atmosphere and

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they then rain down

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they infect organisms and they cause

387
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these sudden jumps and mutations like

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this

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punctuated equilibrium model of

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evolution

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and i think we can see a number of these

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events across time

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and they explain a lot of the other

394
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anomalies in evolution in fact if you

395
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look at

396
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for example the evolution of the wing

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right is this idea that you know if you

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have a random mutation

399
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like you know stubs of a wing but why

400
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those are going to persist they have no

401
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use

402
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allow you to glide or fly

403
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you just have two flaps of skin sticking

404
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off the side of you those are actually

405
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an encumbrance more likely to be grabbed

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by predators

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they're using up energy they have no use

408
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so why do these persist until the point

409
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where they

410
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evolve into entire wing oh hang on a

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minute if they come as leaps

412
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you know new information in the system

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causing radical mutations then you start

414
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to see why things like the eye

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and wings and all sorts of strange

416
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things that are not useful in an

417
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intermediary stage might just suddenly

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appear

419
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right that we have these radical leaps

420
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in evolution these are all throughout

421
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the entire timeline i'd only suggest

422
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camera explosions it's a very obvious

423
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one

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we just have an unbelievable number of

425
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changes at once

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00:13:46,870 --> 00:13:44,399
yeah man it seems like we are kind of

427
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predisposed to divide ourselves into

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camps and directed panspermia seems like

429
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the perfect story

430
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to come to when you reverse engineer

431
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those science first religion camps for a

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common ideological ancestor so to speak

433
00:14:02,389 --> 00:14:00,160
it's

434
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pretty perfect and i really do like that

435
00:14:08,870 --> 00:14:05,519
idea in terms of things going on

436
00:14:12,069 --> 00:14:08,880
today or clues today that could

437
00:14:13,750 --> 00:14:12,079
back up this potential epic story let me

438
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give people a quote from the book here

439
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where you write

440
00:14:20,069 --> 00:14:17,440
daniella and i are among those people

441
00:14:22,150 --> 00:14:20,079
impacted by alien abduction experiences

442
00:14:23,110 --> 00:14:22,160
my first relevant experience occurred in

443
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the form of

444
00:14:27,030 --> 00:14:25,199
recurrent vivid nightmares as a very

445
00:14:28,790 --> 00:14:27,040
young child i would find myself dreaming

446
00:14:29,990 --> 00:14:28,800
that i was on a metal table surrounded

447
00:14:31,910 --> 00:14:30,000
by strange humanoid

448
00:14:33,670 --> 00:14:31,920
entities one of them reminded me of the

449
00:14:35,030 --> 00:14:33,680
star wars character chewbacca and

450
00:14:38,150 --> 00:14:35,040
another of the vampire

451
00:14:38,550 --> 00:14:38,160
count dracula but my own alien abduction

452
00:14:41,269 --> 00:14:38,560
type

453
00:14:42,389 --> 00:14:41,279
experiences pale in comparison to those

454
00:14:44,790 --> 00:14:42,399
of daniella's

455
00:14:45,829 --> 00:14:44,800
to be perfectly honest all the accounts

456
00:14:48,230 --> 00:14:45,839
i have read fall

457
00:14:49,269 --> 00:14:48,240
short of the intense things daniella has

458
00:14:50,870 --> 00:14:49,279
been through

459
00:14:53,189 --> 00:14:50,880
well you know i gotta ask you to

460
00:14:53,670 --> 00:14:53,199
elaborate on that what could you tell us

461
00:14:56,629 --> 00:14:53,680
about

462
00:14:57,430 --> 00:14:56,639
her experiences that surpass the typical

463
00:14:59,350 --> 00:14:57,440
stories

464
00:15:01,269 --> 00:14:59,360
an audience like this is probably well

465
00:15:04,310 --> 00:15:01,279
familiar with and how could they

466
00:15:07,110 --> 00:15:04,320
relate to this bigger topic of alien

467
00:15:09,430 --> 00:15:07,120
involvement in the human story

468
00:15:10,870 --> 00:15:09,440
sure yeah i'm quickly um sidetracking to

469
00:15:13,670 --> 00:15:10,880
that for you

470
00:15:14,790 --> 00:15:13,680
daniel is a person who's had experiences

471
00:15:18,389 --> 00:15:14,800
really from

472
00:15:21,509 --> 00:15:18,399
toddler years onwards some of her

473
00:15:23,750 --> 00:15:21,519
early memories are of being in her crib

474
00:15:25,269 --> 00:15:23,760
seeing entities in the room including

475
00:15:28,389 --> 00:15:25,279
what looked like a kind of

476
00:15:30,230 --> 00:15:28,399
which was an ape-like entity that would

477
00:15:31,030 --> 00:15:30,240
jump around manic and jump around the

478
00:15:32,470 --> 00:15:31,040
room

479
00:15:34,069 --> 00:15:32,480
essentially you know scare i don't know

480
00:15:34,870 --> 00:15:34,079
if it's just scaring for the sake of

481
00:15:36,470 --> 00:15:34,880
scaring or

482
00:15:38,150 --> 00:15:36,480
but she had the sense of that you know

483
00:15:38,710 --> 00:15:38,160
did he want to maybe grab her unless it

484
00:15:40,790 --> 00:15:38,720
was

485
00:15:42,470 --> 00:15:40,800
kind of a frightening figure she'd also

486
00:15:44,629 --> 00:15:42,480
had experiences of

487
00:15:45,749 --> 00:15:44,639
flying out of her car so i mean this is

488
00:15:47,269 --> 00:15:45,759
some kind of astral

489
00:15:49,269 --> 00:15:47,279
travel type you know how body

490
00:15:50,949 --> 00:15:49,279
experiences that she had

491
00:15:52,230 --> 00:15:50,959
from around one or two years old you

492
00:15:55,430 --> 00:15:52,240
know she remembers that started very

493
00:15:58,470 --> 00:15:55,440
early in her life she's also always had

494
00:15:58,949 --> 00:15:58,480
the ability to see spirits of deceased

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00:16:03,749 --> 00:15:58,959
people

496
00:16:05,670 --> 00:16:03,759
you know that through a childhood she

497
00:16:07,590 --> 00:16:05,680
recalls seeing he's like a tall

498
00:16:09,670 --> 00:16:07,600
shadow man that would be sometimes in

499
00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:09,680
the room an entity that looked

500
00:16:12,870 --> 00:16:12,399
a bit like a sort of a tall grey grey

501
00:16:14,870 --> 00:16:12,880
aliens

502
00:16:16,710 --> 00:16:14,880
so a bit like that and again alongside

503
00:16:18,150 --> 00:16:16,720
this would have experiences of seeing

504
00:16:20,470 --> 00:16:18,160
deceased people

505
00:16:22,069 --> 00:16:20,480
so that really was from her early years

506
00:16:24,189 --> 00:16:22,079
onwards now

507
00:16:25,670 --> 00:16:24,199
that i suppose in itself is not

508
00:16:27,030 --> 00:16:25,680
completely

509
00:16:29,590 --> 00:16:27,040
you know it's certainly not a bit unique

510
00:16:31,670 --> 00:16:29,600
i mean it's rare perhaps that someone

511
00:16:33,110 --> 00:16:31,680
has that intense level of experiences

512
00:16:35,509 --> 00:16:33,120
ongoing from

513
00:16:36,870 --> 00:16:35,519
so early in life but clearly obviously

514
00:16:39,350 --> 00:16:36,880
there are people who are

515
00:16:40,790 --> 00:16:39,360
psychic throughout life the herdsmen has

516
00:16:42,069 --> 00:16:40,800
become particularly more bizarre i

517
00:16:44,389 --> 00:16:42,079
suppose in the last

518
00:16:45,590 --> 00:16:44,399
decade when we had well a series of

519
00:16:46,389 --> 00:16:45,600
events particularly for her i mean it

520
00:16:50,150 --> 00:16:46,399
began

521
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really with me when i went to egypt back

522
00:16:54,230 --> 00:16:51,040
in

523
00:16:56,550 --> 00:16:54,240
november 2011.

524
00:16:57,350 --> 00:16:56,560
whilst there i went to a site called abu

525
00:16:58,629 --> 00:16:57,360
gurab

526
00:17:00,230 --> 00:16:58,639
which is i didn't know the time but

527
00:17:01,749 --> 00:17:00,240
there's some articles out there you'll

528
00:17:03,430 --> 00:17:01,759
find where they talk about the stargate

529
00:17:04,549 --> 00:17:03,440
abu ghraib i think particularly one by

530
00:17:07,669 --> 00:17:04,559
william henry

531
00:17:09,429 --> 00:17:07,679
the mythologist that this site

532
00:17:11,029 --> 00:17:09,439
is rumored to be amongst the most

533
00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:11,039
ancient on the giza plateau

534
00:17:14,230 --> 00:17:13,760
and it correlates with the pleiades on

535
00:17:15,750 --> 00:17:14,240
the ground

536
00:17:17,270 --> 00:17:15,760
if you look at this there's a star map

537
00:17:19,990 --> 00:17:17,280
that correlates with sites

538
00:17:20,549 --> 00:17:20,000
for giza if you mesh them up you find

539
00:17:23,029 --> 00:17:20,559
that

540
00:17:24,069 --> 00:17:23,039
this area meshes with the pleiades now

541
00:17:27,669 --> 00:17:24,079
whilst i was there

542
00:17:28,309 --> 00:17:27,679
i had this sense of connection with the

543
00:17:30,070 --> 00:17:28,319
pleiades

544
00:17:31,510 --> 00:17:30,080
of looking up i could see it rising over

545
00:17:33,750 --> 00:17:31,520
this site

546
00:17:35,190 --> 00:17:33,760
had a strong feeling that there was you

547
00:17:36,549 --> 00:17:35,200
know somebody there you know it's very

548
00:17:38,549 --> 00:17:36,559
weird is very abstract i'm not

549
00:17:40,070 --> 00:17:38,559
well you think it was a classic new ager

550
00:17:41,909 --> 00:17:40,080
who tried playing

551
00:17:44,070 --> 00:17:41,919
archurians you know be familiar with

552
00:17:45,029 --> 00:17:44,080
that kind of thing i just found myself

553
00:17:46,549 --> 00:17:45,039
saying you know

554
00:17:47,990 --> 00:17:46,559
why aren't you coming back to help you

555
00:17:48,310 --> 00:17:48,000
know why have you left the earth like

556
00:17:49,430 --> 00:17:48,320
this

557
00:17:50,630 --> 00:17:49,440
all these problems and you know it's

558
00:17:52,470 --> 00:17:50,640
really abstract but having this

559
00:17:53,110 --> 00:17:52,480
conversation in your head with just some

560
00:17:55,430 --> 00:17:53,120
stars

561
00:17:57,669 --> 00:17:55,440
rising over this temple no particular

562
00:17:59,830 --> 00:17:57,679
not like seeing a spaceship or anything

563
00:18:01,110 --> 00:17:59,840
but then afterwards you know nothing

564
00:18:02,470 --> 00:18:01,120
really happened i'd love to say you know

565
00:18:02,789 --> 00:18:02,480
spaceships throughout the air and you

566
00:18:04,070 --> 00:18:02,799
know

567
00:18:05,029 --> 00:18:04,080
lots of things happen but no it wasn't

568
00:18:06,230 --> 00:18:05,039
like that it was just you know it

569
00:18:09,029 --> 00:18:06,240
happened like that

570
00:18:09,750 --> 00:18:09,039
but then probably about two months after

571
00:18:11,750 --> 00:18:09,760
that

572
00:18:14,390 --> 00:18:11,760
i've gone back to the uk from the uk i

573
00:18:16,150 --> 00:18:14,400
went to spain where daniella was i

574
00:18:18,070 --> 00:18:16,160
was working in a school with her there

575
00:18:19,350 --> 00:18:18,080
and that's first time physically we make

576
00:18:22,070 --> 00:18:19,360
sure that we've known each other

577
00:18:23,750 --> 00:18:22,080
previous to that online and then from

578
00:18:24,549 --> 00:18:23,760
there we ended up going to ecuador where

579
00:18:26,630 --> 00:18:24,559
she has

580
00:18:28,710 --> 00:18:26,640
family so it was a little longer story

581
00:18:31,830 --> 00:18:28,720
but it's a bit more boring

582
00:18:33,750 --> 00:18:31,840
but we ended up in ecuador and so it was

583
00:18:35,430 --> 00:18:33,760
within a few days of being there

584
00:18:37,270 --> 00:18:35,440
that she had this experience where she

585
00:18:39,270 --> 00:18:37,280
became quite sort of

586
00:18:42,150 --> 00:18:39,280
ill she felt quite unwell she went to

587
00:18:43,909 --> 00:18:42,160
bed said she started a lot of pain

588
00:18:45,830 --> 00:18:43,919
and then kind of passed out from the

589
00:18:46,549 --> 00:18:45,840
pain and then she from her voice she's

590
00:18:49,350 --> 00:18:46,559
told me obviously

591
00:18:49,590 --> 00:18:49,360
experiences she found herself being kind

592
00:18:55,830 --> 00:18:49,600
of

593
00:18:56,390 --> 00:18:55,840
taken down to your atoms being torn

594
00:18:58,390 --> 00:18:56,400
apart

595
00:18:59,510 --> 00:18:58,400
almost to the nothing and then passing

596
00:19:01,510 --> 00:18:59,520
through some kind of

597
00:19:03,110 --> 00:19:01,520
energetic barrier almost like flying

598
00:19:05,190 --> 00:19:03,120
through the wall

599
00:19:08,150 --> 00:19:05,200
and that on the other side of this

600
00:19:10,870 --> 00:19:08,160
barrier re-manifesting as herself

601
00:19:12,870 --> 00:19:10,880
but being in this strange space which

602
00:19:16,070 --> 00:19:12,880
you have the sensation of it being

603
00:19:17,590 --> 00:19:16,080
kind of dome-shaped but you could see

604
00:19:18,310 --> 00:19:17,600
through the walls that kind of teal

605
00:19:19,510 --> 00:19:18,320
color

606
00:19:21,270 --> 00:19:19,520
you could see through these kind of

607
00:19:23,190 --> 00:19:21,280
stars through these walls and that

608
00:19:25,190 --> 00:19:23,200
within this structure there were beings

609
00:19:26,870 --> 00:19:25,200
you know tall humanoid beings that were

610
00:19:27,990 --> 00:19:26,880
in a kind of conference

611
00:19:29,110 --> 00:19:28,000
they were talking about kind of events

612
00:19:31,029 --> 00:19:29,120
on earth things that they said wouldn't

613
00:19:32,630 --> 00:19:31,039
come things that were happening

614
00:19:35,270 --> 00:19:32,640
some of them quite crazy kind of

615
00:19:36,390 --> 00:19:35,280
cataclysmic other things just spiritual

616
00:19:38,070 --> 00:19:36,400
and different groups having different

617
00:19:39,590 --> 00:19:38,080
conversations some of them would be

618
00:19:40,549 --> 00:19:39,600
looking at her you know others were just

619
00:19:42,870 --> 00:19:40,559
in their own

620
00:19:44,070 --> 00:19:42,880
conversations eventually some of them

621
00:19:44,630 --> 00:19:44,080
engaged and they were telling her you

622
00:19:46,070 --> 00:19:44,640
know this is

623
00:19:47,909 --> 00:19:46,080
gonna happen and you know what are you

624
00:19:51,190 --> 00:19:47,919
gonna do you know on all this and

625
00:19:52,630 --> 00:19:51,200
i really found a strange scenario

626
00:19:54,310 --> 00:19:52,640
with her all the time bear in mind she

627
00:19:55,830 --> 00:19:54,320
was wondering this point am i dead

628
00:19:57,909 --> 00:19:55,840
you know which i mean i think it's quite

629
00:19:59,270 --> 00:19:57,919
reasonable thing to think if you feel

630
00:20:01,830 --> 00:19:59,280
like you've been dismantled

631
00:20:02,470 --> 00:20:01,840
for some kind of barrier you know the

632
00:20:04,549 --> 00:20:02,480
logic

633
00:20:06,149 --> 00:20:04,559
in your mind is you know am i dead you

634
00:20:07,830 --> 00:20:06,159
know where am i

635
00:20:09,190 --> 00:20:07,840
and at the end of this experience you

636
00:20:11,430 --> 00:20:09,200
know she was

637
00:20:12,230 --> 00:20:11,440
sent back found herself back in her body

638
00:20:13,909 --> 00:20:12,240
you know

639
00:20:15,669 --> 00:20:13,919
i then asked her anything strange

640
00:20:17,190 --> 00:20:15,679
happened to her because unknown to her

641
00:20:19,190 --> 00:20:17,200
the whole time that this was going on

642
00:20:20,630 --> 00:20:19,200
she was actually mumbling you know

643
00:20:21,830 --> 00:20:20,640
unconscious she was mumbling about it

644
00:20:25,029 --> 00:20:21,840
and i could hear it from my

645
00:20:26,470 --> 00:20:25,039
free sons and coming changes and

646
00:20:27,430 --> 00:20:26,480
all sorts of stuff that i could have one

647
00:20:28,630 --> 00:20:27,440
side of what was obviously a

648
00:20:31,190 --> 00:20:28,640
conversation

649
00:20:32,950 --> 00:20:31,200
and so i was then tried to just test

650
00:20:33,510 --> 00:20:32,960
with her did she remember something odd

651
00:20:35,590 --> 00:20:33,520
happening

652
00:20:37,350 --> 00:20:35,600
i don't like to lead people to see what

653
00:20:38,549 --> 00:20:37,360
she could remember and so she told me

654
00:20:42,630 --> 00:20:38,559
about this experience

655
00:20:44,390 --> 00:20:42,640
now after that every few days

656
00:20:45,750 --> 00:20:44,400
a similar thing would happen she'd be

657
00:20:47,350 --> 00:20:45,760
taken from her body

658
00:20:49,110 --> 00:20:47,360
but instead of going to this meeting

659
00:20:50,230 --> 00:20:49,120
which we now suspect was probably in

660
00:20:52,390 --> 00:20:50,240
some kind of

661
00:20:54,549 --> 00:20:52,400
flying saucer because in this dome shape

662
00:20:56,549 --> 00:20:54,559
i mean kind of funnily enough you know

663
00:20:59,350 --> 00:20:56,559
reminds me of anything oh a lot of these

664
00:21:01,190 --> 00:20:59,360
objects seem to be dome shaped may not

665
00:21:03,029 --> 00:21:01,200
have been but that's what we assume now

666
00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:03,039
that afterwards she would instead be

667
00:21:09,669 --> 00:21:06,000
taken from her body and find herself

668
00:21:12,310 --> 00:21:09,679
in someone else's body in this tall lady

669
00:21:13,430 --> 00:21:12,320
abnormally tall about two meters or so

670
00:21:15,270 --> 00:21:13,440
tall

671
00:21:16,470 --> 00:21:15,280
and the first experience she fasted in a

672
00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:16,480
tunnel system

673
00:21:19,750 --> 00:21:17,760
somewhere and she went through these

674
00:21:20,789 --> 00:21:19,760
tunnels and found a group of other

675
00:21:23,909 --> 00:21:20,799
beings that were the

676
00:21:25,029 --> 00:21:23,919
tall humans abnormally to all humans

677
00:21:26,390 --> 00:21:25,039
having a meeting and they were all in

678
00:21:27,830 --> 00:21:26,400
this kind of native american kind of

679
00:21:29,590 --> 00:21:27,840
clothes i mean we now know

680
00:21:31,909 --> 00:21:29,600
that they're actually sort of mayan

681
00:21:33,350 --> 00:21:31,919
clothes and over a number of these

682
00:21:34,789 --> 00:21:33,360
journeys i mean again there was dozens

683
00:21:36,630 --> 00:21:34,799
and dozens of these journeys

684
00:21:38,149 --> 00:21:36,640
that she came to understand that she was

685
00:21:41,190 --> 00:21:38,159
in palenque which is

686
00:21:45,110 --> 00:21:41,200
down in yucatan and the he was

687
00:21:46,070 --> 00:21:45,120
around about around 650 to 700 a.d that

688
00:21:48,950 --> 00:21:46,080
kind of time space

689
00:21:49,750 --> 00:21:48,960
with lord pacau being the lord of

690
00:21:50,789 --> 00:21:49,760
palenque

691
00:21:52,470 --> 00:21:50,799
and that there was this whole load of

692
00:21:54,149 --> 00:21:52,480
these beings who you know given to

693
00:21:54,870 --> 00:21:54,159
understand were kind of hybrids human

694
00:21:56,230 --> 00:21:54,880
hybrids

695
00:21:58,070 --> 00:21:56,240
that have been modified by an

696
00:22:00,070 --> 00:21:58,080
extraterrestrial group and that there

697
00:22:00,630 --> 00:22:00,080
were others there that she saw tall

698
00:22:02,870 --> 00:22:00,640
greys

699
00:22:03,990 --> 00:22:02,880
that were also in areas under this city

700
00:22:05,510 --> 00:22:04,000
and meanwhile you've got the normal

701
00:22:07,669 --> 00:22:05,520
mayans these humans

702
00:22:08,630 --> 00:22:07,679
living there in the city but these lords

703
00:22:10,710 --> 00:22:08,640
of palenque

704
00:22:12,630 --> 00:22:10,720
she's anything but normal with

705
00:22:13,190 --> 00:22:12,640
incredible powers and run really fast

706
00:22:15,190 --> 00:22:13,200
they're

707
00:22:17,110 --> 00:22:15,200
incredibly strong you know all sorts of

708
00:22:19,350 --> 00:22:17,120
abnormal traits

709
00:22:21,350 --> 00:22:19,360
now she's like what do you make of that

710
00:22:22,870 --> 00:22:21,360
so she was like well

711
00:22:24,149 --> 00:22:22,880
there's no way to explain it because you

712
00:22:25,750 --> 00:22:24,159
can't really say we don't know for sure

713
00:22:28,310 --> 00:22:25,760
whether it was

714
00:22:30,149 --> 00:22:28,320
aliens taking it to the past or whether

715
00:22:32,630 --> 00:22:30,159
there's some sort of projection

716
00:22:33,590 --> 00:22:32,640
of that time into her mind by some

717
00:22:35,669 --> 00:22:33,600
intelligence

718
00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:35,679
or you know astral time travel what

719
00:22:39,029 --> 00:22:37,600
names gives us but i personally i don't

720
00:22:41,830 --> 00:22:39,039
know of anyone

721
00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:41,840
anywhere ever that's had that kind of

722
00:22:44,149 --> 00:22:42,720
experience

723
00:22:45,669 --> 00:22:44,159
where you've had people mind we're

724
00:22:46,310 --> 00:22:45,679
talking about dozens and dozens of these

725
00:22:48,149 --> 00:22:46,320
a whole

726
00:22:51,270 --> 00:22:48,159
second life that she was living

727
00:22:52,230 --> 00:22:51,280
throughout the year 2012 into early 2013

728
00:22:53,990 --> 00:22:52,240
where literally should come back

729
00:22:55,190 --> 00:22:54,000
sometimes with black eyes from being

730
00:22:57,270 --> 00:22:55,200
punched in the face there

731
00:22:58,630 --> 00:22:57,280
and have real black eyes another time

732
00:23:00,710 --> 00:22:58,640
she was given

733
00:23:02,390 --> 00:23:00,720
a liquid which she was these greys were

734
00:23:04,310 --> 00:23:02,400
trying to wipe her memory

735
00:23:05,669 --> 00:23:04,320
they gave her this liquid and she was

736
00:23:07,350 --> 00:23:05,679
starting to be ill but then she was

737
00:23:09,029 --> 00:23:07,360
vomiting in the bedroom

738
00:23:10,390 --> 00:23:09,039
like vomiting off the side of the bed so

739
00:23:11,750 --> 00:23:10,400
bear in mind you know you're given

740
00:23:15,669 --> 00:23:11,760
something in this

741
00:23:18,149 --> 00:23:15,679
hyper real vr place whatever it is

742
00:23:18,789 --> 00:23:18,159
but you're literally sick here when you

743
00:23:20,470 --> 00:23:18,799
come back

744
00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:20,480
like really ill vomiting and stuff right

745
00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:23,760
so there was a very permeable

746
00:23:27,510 --> 00:23:26,320
line between these two lives and also

747
00:23:28,070 --> 00:23:27,520
she would see another version of me

748
00:23:30,390 --> 00:23:28,080
there

749
00:23:31,430 --> 00:23:30,400
that i was essentially the war chief of

750
00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:31,440
palenque

751
00:23:37,750 --> 00:23:34,880
and second to pacao and that there

752
00:23:39,590 --> 00:23:37,760
i'm kind of i'm still her partner there

753
00:23:41,830 --> 00:23:39,600
but i'm this sort of

754
00:23:43,269 --> 00:23:41,840
kind of slightly obnoxious in a way kind

755
00:23:45,990 --> 00:23:43,279
of macho

756
00:23:46,710 --> 00:23:46,000
kind of annoying kind of guy for

757
00:23:48,310 --> 00:23:46,720
actually

758
00:23:50,310 --> 00:23:48,320
you know i guess i've shooted the times

759
00:23:52,149 --> 00:23:50,320
that you know that i was living in

760
00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:52,159
you know i'm supposed to be the kind of

761
00:23:55,269 --> 00:23:53,840
tough guy you know so it's really

762
00:23:56,710 --> 00:23:55,279
surreal though because she's seeing me

763
00:23:57,269 --> 00:23:56,720
there and then she's seeing me in her

764
00:24:00,390 --> 00:23:57,279
life

765
00:24:01,669 --> 00:24:00,400
back in the present she's got kids there

766
00:24:03,190 --> 00:24:01,679
she's got kids here

767
00:24:04,789 --> 00:24:03,200
she said you know you imagine this

768
00:24:07,510 --> 00:24:04,799
obviously this had

769
00:24:09,430 --> 00:24:07,520
permanent life-changing effects on it

770
00:24:10,789 --> 00:24:09,440
psychological changes also she feels

771
00:24:13,590 --> 00:24:10,799
physical changes

772
00:24:13,909 --> 00:24:13,600
um emotional changes because you can't

773
00:24:17,190 --> 00:24:13,919
live

774
00:24:18,549 --> 00:24:17,200
major

775
00:24:19,909 --> 00:24:18,559
impact and they gave all sorts of

776
00:24:21,669 --> 00:24:19,919
information as well you know about

777
00:24:22,710 --> 00:24:21,679
changes and showing their calendars of

778
00:24:24,789 --> 00:24:22,720
when things would happen

779
00:24:26,950 --> 00:24:24,799
and where crystal skulls were hidden in

780
00:24:28,630 --> 00:24:26,960
there rooms full of tablets with loads

781
00:24:30,390 --> 00:24:28,640
of information on you know all sorts of

782
00:24:32,149 --> 00:24:30,400
stuff there's a whole

783
00:24:33,990 --> 00:24:32,159
you know yeah it's so strange and i'd

784
00:24:35,350 --> 00:24:34,000
hear at night mumbling in mayan i would

785
00:24:37,750 --> 00:24:35,360
hear her talking in mayan

786
00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:37,760
right and kicking the wall and stuff and

787
00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:38,960
this went on for months

788
00:24:41,590 --> 00:24:40,320
so when i talk about that daniela's

789
00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:41,600
experiences are extraordinary i mean

790
00:24:44,310 --> 00:24:43,200
they're really really extraordinary to

791
00:24:45,909 --> 00:24:44,320
the point where

792
00:24:48,549 --> 00:24:45,919
i just don't know of any other

793
00:24:51,830 --> 00:24:48,559
experiences as extraordinary as that

794
00:24:53,269 --> 00:24:51,840
wow yes yes and uh the kind of artifact

795
00:24:53,909 --> 00:24:53,279
stuff you mentioned there towards the

796
00:24:55,269 --> 00:24:53,919
end is

797
00:24:56,950 --> 00:24:55,279
definitely the next thing i wanted to

798
00:24:59,350 --> 00:24:56,960
talk about but the

799
00:25:00,789 --> 00:24:59,360
ecuadorian trigger is kind of

800
00:25:03,110 --> 00:25:00,799
interesting because

801
00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:03,120
i've heard other stories of paranormal

802
00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:05,200
experiences being triggered by

803
00:25:09,190 --> 00:25:08,080
a return to someone's ancestral land you

804
00:25:11,990 --> 00:25:09,200
said she had family there

805
00:25:13,669 --> 00:25:12,000
yeah we do talk about the veil today

806
00:25:16,310 --> 00:25:13,679
being thicker than it was

807
00:25:18,710 --> 00:25:16,320
at a time in the past that communion is

808
00:25:21,190 --> 00:25:18,720
more rare than maybe it used to be

809
00:25:22,950 --> 00:25:21,200
well we also do have more people away

810
00:25:25,750 --> 00:25:22,960
from their ancestral lands than

811
00:25:27,269 --> 00:25:25,760
any other time and indigenous tribes who

812
00:25:28,950 --> 00:25:27,279
have stayed in one spot do

813
00:25:31,590 --> 00:25:28,960
also seem to have the strongest

814
00:25:33,990 --> 00:25:31,600
connection to that spirit world still

815
00:25:35,430 --> 00:25:34,000
maybe the correlation is important i i

816
00:25:36,230 --> 00:25:35,440
don't know and it seems like it'd be a

817
00:25:38,390 --> 00:25:36,240
weird one

818
00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:38,400
but there is a shape there that i've

819
00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:39,760
heard before

820
00:25:44,149 --> 00:25:41,600
well i do think there's a connection and

821
00:25:45,909 --> 00:25:44,159
what we found out later as well that

822
00:25:47,510 --> 00:25:45,919
her father had had some quite strange

823
00:25:48,310 --> 00:25:47,520
prison i don't know as exchanged as that

824
00:25:49,990 --> 00:25:48,320
but he

825
00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:50,000
told us that he remembered when he was

826
00:25:52,549 --> 00:25:51,760
younger he used to have these very vivid

827
00:25:56,149 --> 00:25:52,559
dreams

828
00:25:58,230 --> 00:25:56,159
where he was this inca some kind of lord

829
00:25:59,350 --> 00:25:58,240
in the inca right and which obviously

830
00:26:01,510 --> 00:25:59,360
you know they stretched there and

831
00:26:03,269 --> 00:26:01,520
stretched mostly across peru but at one

832
00:26:05,350 --> 00:26:03,279
point into ecuador a bit as well

833
00:26:06,630 --> 00:26:05,360
and that he would have people bowing to

834
00:26:08,789 --> 00:26:06,640
him you know bound to him and

835
00:26:10,149 --> 00:26:08,799
he wasn't he was away he wasn't like the

836
00:26:11,669 --> 00:26:10,159
inca the emperor

837
00:26:13,669 --> 00:26:11,679
but he was some senior person who was

838
00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:13,679
connected to where the treasures were

839
00:26:15,830 --> 00:26:15,120
kept you know some kind of treasure or

840
00:26:17,909 --> 00:26:15,840
something like that

841
00:26:19,669 --> 00:26:17,919
and in these repeating dreams you know

842
00:26:20,950 --> 00:26:19,679
that he would look around the city and

843
00:26:22,710 --> 00:26:20,960
he'd know where things were

844
00:26:24,549 --> 00:26:22,720
and it really echoed with it he said in

845
00:26:26,789 --> 00:26:24,559
one day he was with his family and they

846
00:26:27,750 --> 00:26:26,799
were driving him along through a town he

847
00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:27,760
was quite young

848
00:26:31,190 --> 00:26:29,200
and he's saying he looked out the window

849
00:26:34,149 --> 00:26:31,200
and he realized it was the town

850
00:26:35,669 --> 00:26:34,159
from the dreams and he was like i wonder

851
00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:35,679
if i know where the gold is

852
00:26:39,269 --> 00:26:38,400
you know in this town he said but then

853
00:26:41,110 --> 00:26:39,279
he never then

854
00:26:42,549 --> 00:26:41,120
found out where that was he couldn't you

855
00:26:43,669 --> 00:26:42,559
know he didn't know what town what he

856
00:26:44,789 --> 00:26:43,679
was doing you're driving for a town

857
00:26:46,950 --> 00:26:44,799
the sort of thing about he said he never

858
00:26:48,390 --> 00:26:46,960
again found that town but he said he

859
00:26:50,230 --> 00:26:48,400
remembers it at one point he drove for

860
00:26:51,190 --> 00:26:50,240
town he was like oh my god this is the

861
00:26:53,269 --> 00:26:51,200
town

862
00:26:54,789 --> 00:26:53,279
was in my dream you know he was sort of

863
00:26:56,710 --> 00:26:54,799
aware that maybe he still

864
00:26:57,909 --> 00:26:56,720
could find where that gold had been kept

865
00:26:59,430 --> 00:26:57,919
because he was sort of in charge

866
00:27:00,950 --> 00:26:59,440
so obviously i was kind of like can't

867
00:27:03,669 --> 00:27:00,960
you please try

868
00:27:04,149 --> 00:27:03,679
harder to remember the town because you

869
00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:04,159
know

870
00:27:07,909 --> 00:27:05,760
so i do think it's in the family and

871
00:27:10,470 --> 00:27:07,919
daniella's grandmother was a healer

872
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:10,480
she was kind of a traditional healer his

873
00:27:13,830 --> 00:27:12,240
father also has had experience of ufos

874
00:27:14,230 --> 00:27:13,840
and this eventually came out he's not a

875
00:27:15,669 --> 00:27:14,240
very

876
00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:15,679
you know he's someone who's quite closed

877
00:27:18,789 --> 00:27:17,279
about these topics but

878
00:27:20,389 --> 00:27:18,799
in some conversations he's kind of admit

879
00:27:22,070 --> 00:27:20,399
to me that he's hard experiences in the

880
00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:22,080
jungle there where

881
00:27:25,750 --> 00:27:24,559
orbs following him in his car and orbs

882
00:27:27,669 --> 00:27:25,760
would follow him

883
00:27:29,110 --> 00:27:27,679
he's in a flying saucer hovering over

884
00:27:30,630 --> 00:27:29,120
the cathedral in the middle of his

885
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:30,640
hometown

886
00:27:35,190 --> 00:27:33,600
also with what i've said strange dreams

887
00:27:35,590 --> 00:27:35,200
so clearly there is something in that

888
00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:35,600
line

889
00:27:40,549 --> 00:27:39,360
you know is

890
00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:40,559
to do around stressful healing and

891
00:27:44,389 --> 00:27:42,880
shamanism and i mean she was recognized

892
00:27:46,310 --> 00:27:44,399
as being a shaman by the people in

893
00:27:48,549 --> 00:27:46,320
ecuador i mean one of the schwa

894
00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:48,559
shamanic asked if she would come wanted

895
00:27:51,909 --> 00:27:49,440
to come

896
00:27:53,669 --> 00:27:51,919
work with them in the jungle you know it

897
00:27:55,350 --> 00:27:53,679
didn't really fit with our life but

898
00:27:56,630 --> 00:27:55,360
they were aware from the experiences she

899
00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:56,640
was having that she was obviously a

900
00:27:59,430 --> 00:27:57,440
gifted

901
00:28:01,590 --> 00:27:59,440
shamanic healer and she's in my view

902
00:28:03,269 --> 00:28:01,600
very powerful tonight i've seen her

903
00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:03,279
remove energy problems from people and

904
00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:04,159
that you know they're throwing up you

905
00:28:06,710 --> 00:28:05,440
know she does clearing on people and

906
00:28:07,350 --> 00:28:06,720
people go tall and they're puking and

907
00:28:09,029 --> 00:28:07,360
stuff and

908
00:28:10,389 --> 00:28:09,039
clearing out so i mean it's quite

909
00:28:11,750 --> 00:28:10,399
powerful i mean

910
00:28:12,870 --> 00:28:11,760
again if you're people familiar with

911
00:28:13,669 --> 00:28:12,880
those kind of things i get there for a

912
00:28:14,389 --> 00:28:13,679
lot of people it's just you know it

913
00:28:15,909 --> 00:28:14,399
sounds like we

914
00:28:17,669 --> 00:28:15,919
sound crazy but i mean i've seen enough

915
00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:17,679
of it myself i'm aware of her

916
00:28:19,830 --> 00:28:18,480
experiences

917
00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:19,840
i'm aware of what she can do she's

918
00:28:23,669 --> 00:28:22,000
helped me a lot personally with

919
00:28:25,590 --> 00:28:23,679
my own troubles that i've had with

920
00:28:27,190 --> 00:28:25,600
negative energies all sorts of stuff

921
00:28:28,389 --> 00:28:27,200
so yeah i mean it fits with it you know

922
00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:28,399
and obviously for the people in ecuador

923
00:28:30,310 --> 00:28:29,600
this isn't the problem you sit down and

924
00:28:31,909 --> 00:28:30,320
we'd have to we

925
00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:31,919
you know we talk with sorcerers and

926
00:28:35,029 --> 00:28:34,000
healers and shamans and you know we met

927
00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:35,039
quality people like that and she's

928
00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:36,559
learned from quite a lot of people

929
00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:38,240
so for them it's not a strange

930
00:28:42,149 --> 00:28:40,080
conversation for a lot of people in

931
00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:42,159
ecuador generally you can talk about

932
00:28:45,750 --> 00:28:44,080
paranormal and metaphysical things

933
00:28:47,669 --> 00:28:45,760
without it being seen as

934
00:28:49,510 --> 00:28:47,679
crazy or ufos being seen as particularly

935
00:28:52,230 --> 00:28:49,520
strange you know these are

936
00:28:53,750 --> 00:28:52,240
fairly widely accepted topics yeah i

937
00:28:55,269 --> 00:28:53,760
mean it's quite normal to have a shaman

938
00:28:56,549 --> 00:28:55,279
having an office in the town where you

939
00:28:56,950 --> 00:28:56,559
can go to see the shaman and stuff you

940
00:28:58,960 --> 00:28:56,960
know

941
00:29:00,630 --> 00:28:58,970
so it's quite different

942
00:29:03,750 --> 00:29:00,640
[Music]

943
00:29:07,029 --> 00:29:03,760
yeah i mean i love it and to get into

944
00:29:08,710 --> 00:29:07,039
artifacts or treasures you also write

945
00:29:11,110 --> 00:29:08,720
about the long history of

946
00:29:13,110 --> 00:29:11,120
psychic communication alien abduction

947
00:29:13,590 --> 00:29:13,120
information download and this sort of

948
00:29:16,070 --> 00:29:13,600
thing

949
00:29:17,830 --> 00:29:16,080
and note that the messages are often

950
00:29:20,149 --> 00:29:17,840
similar as if there is some sort of

951
00:29:21,909 --> 00:29:20,159
higher intelligence or multi-dimensional

952
00:29:24,070 --> 00:29:21,919
beings calling up the earth to check and

953
00:29:26,710 --> 00:29:24,080
see if we're ready for wider contact

954
00:29:27,269 --> 00:29:26,720
but even more interesting is this idea

955
00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:27,279
that we have

956
00:29:31,669 --> 00:29:30,080
physical objects that have aspects of

957
00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:31,679
this deep history

958
00:29:36,549 --> 00:29:34,720
or these messages embedded within them

959
00:29:38,310 --> 00:29:36,559
obviously you mentioned crystal skulls

960
00:29:39,430 --> 00:29:38,320
earlier that's an example people might

961
00:29:42,310 --> 00:29:39,440
be familiar with

962
00:29:43,029 --> 00:29:42,320
but maybe there's even some sentient

963
00:29:44,789 --> 00:29:43,039
projected

964
00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:44,799
consciousness inside of them to give

965
00:29:49,190 --> 00:29:47,039
people an example of such an object can

966
00:29:53,909 --> 00:29:49,200
you tell us about this story

967
00:29:55,909 --> 00:29:53,919
from a tibetan zogchen master norbu i

968
00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:55,919
guess this is his uncle's story but

969
00:30:00,230 --> 00:29:58,240
it's a story i hadn't heard before

970
00:30:01,590 --> 00:30:00,240
what's the deal there

971
00:30:03,190 --> 00:30:01,600
yeah i think that's an awesome story

972
00:30:04,389 --> 00:30:03,200
because apart from anything else it's

973
00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:04,399
really just

974
00:30:08,710 --> 00:30:06,559
you know it's in a book about buddhism

975
00:30:09,830 --> 00:30:08,720
and you know some experiences of this

976
00:30:11,269 --> 00:30:09,840
master and who knows

977
00:30:13,350 --> 00:30:11,279
it really it has nothing to do with what

978
00:30:15,269 --> 00:30:13,360
we think of you know aliens or

979
00:30:16,549 --> 00:30:15,279
you know kind of that kind of stuff so

980
00:30:18,149 --> 00:30:16,559
he's you know he's not telling

981
00:30:19,669 --> 00:30:18,159
us a preface by saying he's not telling

982
00:30:21,510 --> 00:30:19,679
this story in a way that

983
00:30:23,830 --> 00:30:21,520
would aggrandize him or it's important

984
00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:23,840
to his life narrative right or to

985
00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:24,480
buddhism

986
00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:26,320
he just kind of uses examples one of the

987
00:30:31,269 --> 00:30:28,000
strange things that happened

988
00:30:32,630 --> 00:30:31,279
whilst he was becoming a meditation

989
00:30:34,630 --> 00:30:32,640
master in tibet

990
00:30:36,070 --> 00:30:34,640
so it turns out yeah that his uncle has

991
00:30:37,909 --> 00:30:36,080
this dream they're both you know

992
00:30:39,990 --> 00:30:37,919
meditation masters but obviously his

993
00:30:43,190 --> 00:30:40,000
uncle is more senior and has had

994
00:30:44,389 --> 00:30:43,200
he's revered as a great teacher now his

995
00:30:45,990 --> 00:30:44,399
uncle has this kind of dream and it

996
00:30:47,669 --> 00:30:46,000
becomes aware where there's a sacred

997
00:30:49,909 --> 00:30:47,679
object now there's a tradition in the

998
00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:49,919
himalayas that these meditation masters

999
00:30:53,510 --> 00:30:50,720
will often

1000
00:30:55,269 --> 00:30:53,520
have visions or dreams or encounters

1001
00:30:57,509 --> 00:30:55,279
that give them information

1002
00:30:58,310 --> 00:30:57,519
where they can find hidden texts and

1003
00:30:59,909 --> 00:30:58,320
this is

1004
00:31:01,509 --> 00:30:59,919
very well understood that sometimes a

1005
00:31:04,070 --> 00:31:01,519
meditation master will hide

1006
00:31:05,669 --> 00:31:04,080
a scroll okay that's not useful to

1007
00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:05,679
people now but that teaching will be

1008
00:31:10,470 --> 00:31:07,360
great in 600 years time

1009
00:31:11,909 --> 00:31:10,480
so i put it there and the way they work

1010
00:31:14,389 --> 00:31:11,919
somehow will set up a

1011
00:31:16,710 --> 00:31:14,399
situation that that will be found in 600

1012
00:31:18,549 --> 00:31:16,720
years right through consciousness and

1013
00:31:20,389 --> 00:31:18,559
strange stuff that most people work at

1014
00:31:21,029 --> 00:31:20,399
the fathom but essentially that there

1015
00:31:22,470 --> 00:31:21,039
will be

1016
00:31:25,350 --> 00:31:22,480
you know an event like you know dream

1017
00:31:27,110 --> 00:31:25,360
vision and then the master offering oh

1018
00:31:29,190 --> 00:31:27,120
now i've seen where i can find one of

1019
00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:29,200
these scrolls or one of these objects

1020
00:31:32,630 --> 00:31:30,640
so this happens and this guy sort of

1021
00:31:33,669 --> 00:31:32,640
goes to his nephew and says you know

1022
00:31:35,750 --> 00:31:33,679
what you think we should do should i

1023
00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:35,760
just go there and we check it out we see

1024
00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:37,760
if it's there you know see what it is

1025
00:31:40,870 --> 00:31:39,760
or should we go with a few people and

1026
00:31:41,669 --> 00:31:40,880
then if it's there and there's something

1027
00:31:43,750 --> 00:31:41,679
interesting

1028
00:31:45,029 --> 00:31:43,760
they can all see it kind of being found

1029
00:31:46,870 --> 00:31:45,039
and so you know the nephew kind of says

1030
00:31:49,669 --> 00:31:46,880
well if we go and take

1031
00:31:51,909 --> 00:31:49,679
everyone and you know reveal this object

1032
00:31:53,830 --> 00:31:51,919
it will kind of give everyone a greater

1033
00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:53,840
faith and commitment within the buddhist

1034
00:31:58,070 --> 00:31:55,679
practice they can see you know you've

1035
00:31:59,430 --> 00:31:58,080
brought this great object out and so he

1036
00:32:00,870 --> 00:31:59,440
says i understand that's a good idea so

1037
00:32:01,750 --> 00:32:00,880
he takes a whole load of villagers and

1038
00:32:03,110 --> 00:32:01,760
off they go

1039
00:32:05,269 --> 00:32:03,120
and they head off to this area in the

1040
00:32:06,950 --> 00:32:05,279
mountains and when he gets to the spot

1041
00:32:08,789 --> 00:32:06,960
he asks for one of these little sort of

1042
00:32:10,630 --> 00:32:08,799
small pickaxe like a hand pickaxe

1043
00:32:12,149 --> 00:32:10,640
takes it and he throws it up what looks

1044
00:32:13,990 --> 00:32:12,159
like just a normal cliff face

1045
00:32:15,190 --> 00:32:14,000
and this thing just sticks in and so

1046
00:32:17,190 --> 00:32:15,200
they go that's where it is

1047
00:32:18,470 --> 00:32:17,200
they put up a ladder someone goes up and

1048
00:32:20,549 --> 00:32:18,480
breaks through it seems like what looks

1049
00:32:22,389 --> 00:32:20,559
like a wall just crumbles away

1050
00:32:24,549 --> 00:32:22,399
he says well don't touch the object

1051
00:32:27,509 --> 00:32:24,559
itself so they use like a

1052
00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:27,519
cloth goes in covers this object brings

1053
00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:28,399
it down

1054
00:32:32,710 --> 00:32:30,559
and when they open up this is perfect

1055
00:32:34,630 --> 00:32:32,720
sphere this luminous white orb

1056
00:32:35,909 --> 00:32:34,640
sphere just lying on the blanket he says

1057
00:32:37,029 --> 00:32:35,919
no you know not to touch this be really

1058
00:32:38,630 --> 00:32:37,039
careful with it

1059
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:38,640
and then they take this and obviously

1060
00:32:41,110 --> 00:32:39,600
everyone sees them so obviously

1061
00:32:43,190 --> 00:32:41,120
strengthens their belief that

1062
00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:43,200
his knowledge and his abilities and they

1063
00:32:45,669 --> 00:32:44,320
take it and they take it back to his

1064
00:32:47,590 --> 00:32:45,679
home he says he doesn't think that it's

1065
00:32:49,269 --> 00:32:47,600
ready to reveal its secrets just yet so

1066
00:32:51,110 --> 00:32:49,279
they lock it away in a cabinet

1067
00:32:52,549 --> 00:32:51,120
and then they put his wax seals on it

1068
00:32:54,870 --> 00:32:52,559
and everything puts it away

1069
00:32:56,710 --> 00:32:54,880
and sometime later he goes back to check

1070
00:32:57,190 --> 00:32:56,720
on it and when they open it this thing

1071
00:32:58,710 --> 00:32:57,200
is gone

1072
00:33:01,029 --> 00:32:58,720
he says it has been taken away by the

1073
00:33:01,669 --> 00:33:01,039
divas and these the divas are

1074
00:33:03,909 --> 00:33:01,679
essentially

1075
00:33:04,870 --> 00:33:03,919
entities spiritual entities so we have

1076
00:33:06,789 --> 00:33:04,880
this idea of these

1077
00:33:07,909 --> 00:33:06,799
tradition of artifacts that are hidden

1078
00:33:11,430 --> 00:33:07,919
on this planet that

1079
00:33:13,590 --> 00:33:11,440
seem to be some kind of unknown

1080
00:33:15,590 --> 00:33:13,600
bizarre technologies i mean we assume

1081
00:33:17,110 --> 00:33:15,600
it's some sort of technology

1082
00:33:19,190 --> 00:33:17,120
that is just you know hidden from some

1083
00:33:20,230 --> 00:33:19,200
past time and that these occasions you

1084
00:33:21,269 --> 00:33:20,240
know these turn up

1085
00:33:23,509 --> 00:33:21,279
you know this one like you know

1086
00:33:24,870 --> 00:33:23,519
particular store yeah because it has no

1087
00:33:26,230 --> 00:33:24,880
you know it's not like you because then

1088
00:33:27,909 --> 00:33:26,240
you know claiming something it's just

1089
00:33:29,509 --> 00:33:27,919
you know he's a meditation master and

1090
00:33:31,110 --> 00:33:29,519
his teacher just happens to mention in

1091
00:33:31,509 --> 00:33:31,120
his book and this it kind of stood out

1092
00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:31,519
to me

1093
00:33:36,149 --> 00:33:34,159
now i will add as well that the same

1094
00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:36,159
teacher who kind of tells his story

1095
00:33:38,630 --> 00:33:37,600
he also mentions one i guess i think

1096
00:33:39,190 --> 00:33:38,640
this is quite an important one as well

1097
00:33:42,549 --> 00:33:39,200
where

1098
00:33:44,149 --> 00:33:42,559
in his

1099
00:33:45,590 --> 00:33:44,159
lucid dreams he says basically he had

1100
00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:45,600
lucid dreams every night when you get to

1101
00:33:49,509 --> 00:33:47,600
a certain level of meditation practice

1102
00:33:50,710 --> 00:33:49,519
you can stay conscious you know aware

1103
00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:50,720
throughout your sleep

1104
00:33:55,669 --> 00:33:52,960
so every night is a kind of lucid dream

1105
00:33:58,389 --> 00:33:55,679
now it says during his night

1106
00:33:59,669 --> 00:33:58,399
the divas come to him one of these divas

1107
00:34:01,350 --> 00:33:59,679
gives him a little scroll

1108
00:34:04,310 --> 00:34:01,360
he says you know this is like for your

1109
00:34:05,029 --> 00:34:04,320
uncle puts the scroll in his hand and he

1110
00:34:06,789 --> 00:34:05,039
sort of holds

1111
00:34:08,629 --> 00:34:06,799
it and clamps his other hand over he

1112
00:34:10,869 --> 00:34:08,639
said in the morning when he wakes up

1113
00:34:12,790 --> 00:34:10,879
properly he sees his hands are still

1114
00:34:13,510 --> 00:34:12,800
clasped he opens his hands and there's

1115
00:34:16,069 --> 00:34:13,520
the scroll

1116
00:34:17,349 --> 00:34:16,079
in his hand right so he's astonished so

1117
00:34:18,230 --> 00:34:17,359
even though this is someone who has no

1118
00:34:20,710 --> 00:34:18,240
strange things happen

1119
00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:20,720
he's astonished so he goes takes his

1120
00:34:23,190 --> 00:34:22,320
scroll goes up to the cave where his

1121
00:34:24,869 --> 00:34:23,200
uncle is

1122
00:34:25,909 --> 00:34:24,879
and kind of shouts for him he says

1123
00:34:26,310 --> 00:34:25,919
normally you wouldn't do that you

1124
00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:26,320
shouldn't

1125
00:34:29,109 --> 00:34:27,760
interrupt these masters when they're

1126
00:34:30,310 --> 00:34:29,119
meditating in the morning because he's

1127
00:34:31,589 --> 00:34:30,320
too excited

1128
00:34:33,430 --> 00:34:31,599
so his uncle comes to the door and he's

1129
00:34:35,349 --> 00:34:33,440
like you know what is it

1130
00:34:37,190 --> 00:34:35,359
uncle look you know i had this dream the

1131
00:34:37,669 --> 00:34:37,200
divas came they said there was a scroll

1132
00:34:39,589 --> 00:34:37,679
for you

1133
00:34:41,750 --> 00:34:39,599
and you know it's here and he gives it

1134
00:34:45,349 --> 00:34:41,760
his ah i was expecting that

1135
00:34:47,909 --> 00:34:45,359
he just walks away wow

1136
00:34:49,030 --> 00:34:47,919
that's what he's so normal to him

1137
00:34:50,470 --> 00:34:49,040
whereas you imagine how

1138
00:34:52,470 --> 00:34:50,480
mind-bending that is for the average

1139
00:34:53,990 --> 00:34:52,480
western materialist

1140
00:34:55,589 --> 00:34:54,000
the idea that you know for someone else

1141
00:34:57,430 --> 00:34:55,599
it's totally normal to get a scroll

1142
00:34:58,470 --> 00:34:57,440
given by a diva in a dream and have it

1143
00:35:00,550 --> 00:34:58,480
manifest

1144
00:35:02,150 --> 00:35:00,560
into your waking day and just go off to

1145
00:35:03,190 --> 00:35:02,160
read it right like again the newspaper

1146
00:35:05,349 --> 00:35:03,200
in the morning

1147
00:35:07,750 --> 00:35:05,359
yeah it would be amazing to have that

1148
00:35:10,470 --> 00:35:07,760
analyzed is it made from the same stuff

1149
00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:10,480
as our world is it what language is it

1150
00:35:12,470 --> 00:35:11,920
written in all that kind of stuff it'd

1151
00:35:15,349 --> 00:35:12,480
be

1152
00:35:15,990 --> 00:35:15,359
awesome to dig into that absolutely i do

1153
00:35:17,109 --> 00:35:16,000
like that i'm

1154
00:35:18,710 --> 00:35:17,119
sure that there's a thousand stories

1155
00:35:21,270 --> 00:35:18,720
like that from the himalayas but you

1156
00:35:22,790 --> 00:35:21,280
know i certainly there are stories of

1157
00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:22,800
i've heard of plants that have come back

1158
00:35:25,349 --> 00:35:24,000
from shambhala and that they say

1159
00:35:27,910 --> 00:35:25,359
shambhala is

1160
00:35:28,630 --> 00:35:27,920
not quite within our vibration you know

1161
00:35:31,109 --> 00:35:28,640
it's not

1162
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:31,119
necessarily really here and they'd be

1163
00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:32,400
people have brought back things from

1164
00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:33,839
shambhala and as a guy

1165
00:35:37,270 --> 00:35:35,760
mentions having like a flower on the

1166
00:35:39,109 --> 00:35:37,280
mantelpiece which is you know his father

1167
00:35:41,589 --> 00:35:39,119
brought back from shambhala he's like so

1168
00:35:43,589 --> 00:35:41,599
within that area you know there seems to

1169
00:35:45,349 --> 00:35:43,599
be an acceptance that you can bring back

1170
00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:45,359
objects from the other dimensions and

1171
00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:48,240
other planes of existence

1172
00:35:52,230 --> 00:35:50,160
hell yeah man and i guess what happens

1173
00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:52,240
in the himalayas stays in his life

1174
00:35:55,829 --> 00:35:54,160
way more so than vegas yeah we don't get

1175
00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:55,839
those artifacts brought to us to analyze

1176
00:35:59,829 --> 00:35:57,359
unfortunately so

1177
00:36:00,710 --> 00:35:59,839
yeah and that story or the first part of

1178
00:36:04,069 --> 00:36:00,720
it you know with the

1179
00:36:05,829 --> 00:36:04,079
orb that came out of the cliff side that

1180
00:36:08,470 --> 00:36:05,839
rhymes with a lot of other stories too i

1181
00:36:10,390 --> 00:36:08,480
remember diana posalka's book american

1182
00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:10,400
cosmic where she is briefed on some of

1183
00:36:13,030 --> 00:36:12,720
this stuff by the silicon valley elite

1184
00:36:15,190 --> 00:36:13,040
or

1185
00:36:16,390 --> 00:36:15,200
a modern invisible college who have been

1186
00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:16,400
brought in to wrestle

1187
00:36:20,310 --> 00:36:18,000
with these very same things in the

1188
00:36:20,950 --> 00:36:20,320
corporate world and one of the anonymous

1189
00:36:23,430 --> 00:36:20,960
sources

1190
00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:23,440
mentions that not far from his desk

1191
00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:24,720
there's some

1192
00:36:28,069 --> 00:36:26,560
artifacts that they keep behind this

1193
00:36:31,109 --> 00:36:28,079
massive vault door

1194
00:36:32,870 --> 00:36:31,119
but he can still feel it reach out or

1195
00:36:34,150 --> 00:36:32,880
reading his mind or trying to

1196
00:36:36,310 --> 00:36:34,160
communicate something

1197
00:36:38,470 --> 00:36:36,320
some sort of faint telepathic thing

1198
00:36:39,109 --> 00:36:38,480
going on and i'm sure as you say there's

1199
00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:39,119
many of these

1200
00:36:44,069 --> 00:36:42,000
artifacts potentially squirreled away in

1201
00:36:45,270 --> 00:36:44,079
deep state basements that we'll never

1202
00:36:47,510 --> 00:36:45,280
ever hear about but

1203
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:47,520
it's awesome when we do absolutely

1204
00:36:50,230 --> 00:36:49,200
that's where we get a bit lucky with the

1205
00:36:52,470 --> 00:36:50,240
core of

1206
00:36:55,030 --> 00:36:52,480
exogenesis which is of course tackling

1207
00:36:57,589 --> 00:36:55,040
an encounter with one of these artifacts

1208
00:36:58,310 --> 00:36:57,599
charinga now if you're happy for me i

1209
00:37:00,550 --> 00:36:58,320
can

1210
00:37:02,390 --> 00:37:00,560
go into that a little bit absolutely

1211
00:37:04,950 --> 00:37:02,400
it's uh the next thing on my list so

1212
00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:04,960
dive right in and i would say here just

1213
00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:05,440
very quickly

1214
00:37:08,390 --> 00:37:06,720
so i think that the crystal skulls and

1215
00:37:09,030 --> 00:37:08,400
some of these other artifacts are very

1216
00:37:10,950 --> 00:37:09,040
much

1217
00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:10,960
the same or very similar especially if

1218
00:37:14,630 --> 00:37:12,720
you consider this the crystal skulls

1219
00:37:15,910 --> 00:37:14,640
are silica and in fact when

1220
00:37:17,349 --> 00:37:15,920
hewlett-packard

1221
00:37:19,270 --> 00:37:17,359
examined i think it was the mitchell

1222
00:37:20,790 --> 00:37:19,280
hedges skull that they said it was in

1223
00:37:22,470 --> 00:37:20,800
fact you know exactly the kind of you

1224
00:37:24,470 --> 00:37:22,480
know perfect quality crystal

1225
00:37:26,150 --> 00:37:24,480
that could be utilized for storing

1226
00:37:27,910 --> 00:37:26,160
information and that in theory it could

1227
00:37:29,589 --> 00:37:27,920
be holding all kinds of information but

1228
00:37:31,109 --> 00:37:29,599
we just don't know how to access it

1229
00:37:33,030 --> 00:37:31,119
right and i think that's a really

1230
00:37:34,230 --> 00:37:33,040
crucial understanding before i even go

1231
00:37:35,190 --> 00:37:34,240
into the next week just that you know

1232
00:37:36,550 --> 00:37:35,200
that you've got

1233
00:37:38,710 --> 00:37:36,560
leading edge thinkers kind of saying you

1234
00:37:40,550 --> 00:37:38,720
know yes these things could be

1235
00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:40,560
technologies that we don't understand to

1236
00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:42,400
have information in them

1237
00:37:45,990 --> 00:37:44,640
right there is a precedent there there

1238
00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:46,000
is yeah and so

1239
00:37:49,270 --> 00:37:48,640
with the charingas we have this whole

1240
00:37:51,510 --> 00:37:49,280
law

1241
00:37:53,109 --> 00:37:51,520
mythology history and it depends on

1242
00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:53,119
where you're coming at it from

1243
00:37:56,790 --> 00:37:54,880
that these artifacts now tringer is

1244
00:37:59,510 --> 00:37:56,800
essentially a tablet

1245
00:38:00,470 --> 00:37:59,520
like object you know sort of oval or

1246
00:38:03,349 --> 00:38:00,480
tablet-shaped

1247
00:38:04,630 --> 00:38:03,359
um objects that appear to be sort of

1248
00:38:07,430 --> 00:38:04,640
stone-like

1249
00:38:09,270 --> 00:38:07,440
but again i would suggest silica objects

1250
00:38:11,349 --> 00:38:09,280
and that these have a mythology that

1251
00:38:12,710 --> 00:38:11,359
they go back to the al jaringa time i

1252
00:38:14,310 --> 00:38:12,720
mean our trigger time is what

1253
00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:14,320
someone's might refer to as the dream

1254
00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:16,560
time beginning times the creation time

1255
00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:19,200
where a lot of the different animals and

1256
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:21,040
certainly humans and stuff were created

1257
00:38:24,069 --> 00:38:22,560
parts of the landscape were created so

1258
00:38:25,270 --> 00:38:24,079
you have these stories of these outer

1259
00:38:26,069 --> 00:38:25,280
inga beings who are walking the

1260
00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:26,079
landscape

1261
00:38:31,589 --> 00:38:29,440
they're involved in the creation now

1262
00:38:32,710 --> 00:38:31,599
some of these beings apparently they

1263
00:38:34,710 --> 00:38:32,720
transform into

1264
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:34,720
charingas so they take a form that will

1265
00:38:38,390 --> 00:38:36,720
persist against the weathering of time

1266
00:38:41,190 --> 00:38:38,400
so they become these objects

1267
00:38:42,310 --> 00:38:41,200
these are living beings now as

1268
00:38:43,910 --> 00:38:42,320
tringerstones

1269
00:38:45,829 --> 00:38:43,920
and that they in some sense carry

1270
00:38:46,710 --> 00:38:45,839
information and knowledge they're highly

1271
00:38:48,470 --> 00:38:46,720
sacred they're

1272
00:38:50,470 --> 00:38:48,480
kept away from the general population

1273
00:38:52,550 --> 00:38:50,480
they're only interacted with by

1274
00:38:53,510 --> 00:38:52,560
the clever fellas which are essentially

1275
00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:53,520
kind of shamans

1276
00:38:58,069 --> 00:38:55,440
he's the highest initiate shamans in

1277
00:39:01,030 --> 00:38:58,079
these particularly people

1278
00:39:01,589 --> 00:39:01,040
around uluru and the rmt language group

1279
00:39:04,150 --> 00:39:01,599
now

1280
00:39:05,510 --> 00:39:04,160
are being but they said the original

1281
00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:05,520
there are original ones that go all the

1282
00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:06,720
way back to the arduino time and there

1283
00:39:09,349 --> 00:39:08,000
are others that are copies

1284
00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:09,359
but they still consider those copies to

1285
00:39:13,510 --> 00:39:11,520
be sacred almost in the way that the

1286
00:39:14,550 --> 00:39:13,520
energy of it the consciousness of it can

1287
00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:14,560
you know

1288
00:39:17,990 --> 00:39:17,520
move into others or include them within

1289
00:39:19,910 --> 00:39:18,000
its

1290
00:39:22,069 --> 00:39:19,920
influence so that those are also shaking

1291
00:39:23,829 --> 00:39:22,079
and they're not as ancient

1292
00:39:25,589 --> 00:39:23,839
now there was a situation where one of

1293
00:39:27,829 --> 00:39:25,599
these objects was found in a

1294
00:39:28,630 --> 00:39:27,839
cave going back my fingers around about

1295
00:39:30,150 --> 00:39:28,640
a century ago

1296
00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:30,160
i don't know exactly but one of these

1297
00:39:33,349 --> 00:39:31,920
objects was found in a cave by someone

1298
00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:33,359
who was involved in the

1299
00:39:36,550 --> 00:39:35,440
the camel trader kind of roots where it

1300
00:39:37,270 --> 00:39:36,560
used to be that you know camels were

1301
00:39:39,589 --> 00:39:37,280
used to move

1302
00:39:40,310 --> 00:39:39,599
things across the desert and the afghan

1303
00:39:42,310 --> 00:39:40,320
traders

1304
00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:42,320
in australia were using them to you know

1305
00:39:45,109 --> 00:39:43,520
take goods around

1306
00:39:47,030 --> 00:39:45,119
and someone found one of these strings a

1307
00:39:49,190 --> 00:39:47,040
glowing tablet-like

1308
00:39:51,349 --> 00:39:49,200
object in a cave again this glowing

1309
00:39:53,109 --> 00:39:51,359
thing like we had with the other story

1310
00:39:55,109 --> 00:39:53,119
and that this object was taken and it

1311
00:39:56,710 --> 00:39:55,119
was kept within a family

1312
00:39:58,870 --> 00:39:56,720
now at some point it comes into the

1313
00:40:01,109 --> 00:39:58,880
hands of a person who wants to go back

1314
00:40:03,030 --> 00:40:01,119
to the traditional keepers they're

1315
00:40:05,829 --> 00:40:03,040
trying to get it back to kind of uluru

1316
00:40:07,030 --> 00:40:05,839
now this lady who holds it she becomes

1317
00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:07,040
very ill

1318
00:40:10,309 --> 00:40:09,040
she hasn't been going on life she wants

1319
00:40:12,390 --> 00:40:10,319
someone to temporarily

1320
00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:12,400
look after it and she ends up connecting

1321
00:40:17,510 --> 00:40:14,160
with people valerie barrow

1322
00:40:18,710 --> 00:40:17,520
who basically is kind of a hystic healer

1323
00:40:20,630 --> 00:40:18,720
regression therapist you know the

1324
00:40:21,589 --> 00:40:20,640
alternative so the person if you would

1325
00:40:24,150 --> 00:40:21,599
say to you know

1326
00:40:25,270 --> 00:40:24,160
could you look after my strange artifact

1327
00:40:26,470 --> 00:40:25,280
it wouldn't immediately think like oh

1328
00:40:28,309 --> 00:40:26,480
this is crazy you know

1329
00:40:29,430 --> 00:40:28,319
an open-minded kind of person and she

1330
00:40:30,230 --> 00:40:29,440
happens to have a house called al

1331
00:40:31,750 --> 00:40:30,240
sharinga

1332
00:40:33,910 --> 00:40:31,760
right and so this is taken as a kind of

1333
00:40:35,910 --> 00:40:33,920
a sign that oh this is

1334
00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:35,920
the kind of person i can approach and so

1335
00:40:38,390 --> 00:40:36,960
they have a conversation and

1336
00:40:39,589 --> 00:40:38,400
valerie agrees that you know temporarily

1337
00:40:40,950 --> 00:40:39,599
look after him and it comes to her

1338
00:40:42,710 --> 00:40:40,960
wrapped in paper bark

1339
00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:42,720
and she's told you know please don't

1340
00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:44,880
open it the traditional law is that you

1341
00:40:48,790 --> 00:40:45,680
shouldn't

1342
00:40:50,790 --> 00:40:48,800
look on these things touch them directly

1343
00:40:52,550 --> 00:40:50,800
so she puts her away in a box in a spare

1344
00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:52,560
room and says you know go back to you

1345
00:40:56,390 --> 00:40:53,760
once you're out hospital you've got

1346
00:40:58,390 --> 00:40:56,400
you're better thinks it's all gonna be

1347
00:41:00,150 --> 00:40:58,400
normal and then soon afterwards she

1348
00:41:01,030 --> 00:41:00,160
starts having this direct voice to skull

1349
00:41:03,750 --> 00:41:01,040
communication

1350
00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:03,760
this thing saying i am al jaringa i'm a

1351
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:04,720
living being a star

1352
00:41:08,470 --> 00:41:06,400
person that was here in the creation

1353
00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:08,480
time and started telling this whole

1354
00:41:11,030 --> 00:41:09,440
narrative

1355
00:41:12,630 --> 00:41:11,040
of a ship that has grown in a

1356
00:41:15,829 --> 00:41:12,640
crystalline matrix

1357
00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:15,839
that is inhabited by a self-aware ai

1358
00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:16,960
consciousness

1359
00:41:20,150 --> 00:41:18,400
that arrives here through what sounds

1360
00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:20,160
like to me as sometimes stargate for a

1361
00:41:23,990 --> 00:41:20,960
portal

1362
00:41:24,710 --> 00:41:24,000
from the pleiades carrying 50 000 beings

1363
00:41:26,790 --> 00:41:24,720
on board

1364
00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:26,800
and there's this whole long narrative i

1365
00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:28,480
know you want me to continue it or you

1366
00:41:31,750 --> 00:41:29,440
can

1367
00:41:33,030 --> 00:41:31,760
check anything like otherwise i go on so

1368
00:41:34,790 --> 00:41:33,040
well it's definitely

1369
00:41:36,390 --> 00:41:34,800
really interesting as another example of

1370
00:41:37,190 --> 00:41:36,400
these things and it's all throughout the

1371
00:41:40,390 --> 00:41:37,200
book you are

1372
00:41:43,750 --> 00:41:40,400
backing up with modern data

1373
00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:43,760
and information and studies the messages

1374
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:44,720
that came

1375
00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:47,040
from this stone and again with that

1376
00:41:49,990 --> 00:41:48,800
whole idea of don't touch it you know

1377
00:41:51,990 --> 00:41:50,000
that's something that came up in the

1378
00:41:53,670 --> 00:41:52,000
earlier story it also comes up in

1379
00:41:55,510 --> 00:41:53,680
a story like the ark of the covenant

1380
00:41:57,109 --> 00:41:55,520
absolutely it's like dangerous to

1381
00:42:00,630 --> 00:41:57,119
humanity apparently

1382
00:42:03,349 --> 00:42:00,640
and what i found interesting is you

1383
00:42:04,150 --> 00:42:03,359
write about what is it that wakes these

1384
00:42:07,030 --> 00:42:04,160
artifacts

1385
00:42:07,510 --> 00:42:07,040
up and it could possibly be the touching

1386
00:42:10,790 --> 00:42:07,520
of them

1387
00:42:12,470 --> 00:42:10,800
or you even say in this quote it seems

1388
00:42:15,670 --> 00:42:12,480
quite logical to suspect

1389
00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:15,680
that the alcaringa was the personality

1390
00:42:19,750 --> 00:42:18,240
for an ai technology functioning as a

1391
00:42:21,910 --> 00:42:19,760
monitoring and recording

1392
00:42:23,349 --> 00:42:21,920
sentinel until the appropriate moment

1393
00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:23,359
for open contact

1394
00:42:27,589 --> 00:42:25,760
had been reached by our species it might

1395
00:42:28,510 --> 00:42:27,599
even be that it encountered some

1396
00:42:31,510 --> 00:42:28,520
specific

1397
00:42:33,829 --> 00:42:31,520
electromagnetic frequency associated

1398
00:42:36,230 --> 00:42:33,839
with our technological development

1399
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:36,240
and i really liked that obviously i

1400
00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:37,440
copied it down

1401
00:42:42,950 --> 00:42:40,800
because we have our own electromagnetic

1402
00:42:44,069 --> 00:42:42,960
field so maybe we touch it and it wakes

1403
00:42:46,470 --> 00:42:44,079
it up or maybe

1404
00:42:48,870 --> 00:42:46,480
it notices that our environment is

1405
00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:48,880
changing because we do have a secular

1406
00:42:53,349 --> 00:42:50,880
environment and that could potentially

1407
00:42:56,390 --> 00:42:53,359
be picked up by one of these devices

1408
00:42:57,430 --> 00:42:56,400
but they're just fascinating topics of

1409
00:43:00,710 --> 00:42:57,440
discussion

1410
00:43:03,910 --> 00:43:00,720
it's sad that one of these can't just

1411
00:43:06,309 --> 00:43:03,920
penetrate the main stage of our world

1412
00:43:08,309 --> 00:43:06,319
the crystal skulls i guess got close

1413
00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:08,319
but why can't one of these things just

1414
00:43:12,550 --> 00:43:09,680
penetrate

1415
00:43:13,990 --> 00:43:12,560
the culture to become this household

1416
00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:14,000
item that everybody is

1417
00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:16,319
knowledgeable about because if the story

1418
00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:17,359
shakes out

1419
00:43:20,950 --> 00:43:19,920
and as you present in the book it tends

1420
00:43:22,470 --> 00:43:20,960
to shake out

1421
00:43:25,430 --> 00:43:22,480
i guess it's just hard for people to

1422
00:43:26,069 --> 00:43:25,440
fathom yeah i think it's not really even

1423
00:43:28,150 --> 00:43:26,079
an evidence

1424
00:43:29,910 --> 00:43:28,160
problem or a reasonable problem or logic

1425
00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:29,920
problem it's a problem about what we are

1426
00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:32,800
able to accept or process as kind of

1427
00:43:36,309 --> 00:43:34,720
crazed apes on a joyride through a

1428
00:43:37,510 --> 00:43:36,319
technological madness or whatever it is

1429
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:37,520
that we're doing but

1430
00:43:39,910 --> 00:43:38,560
i don't think something to do with the

1431
00:43:42,309 --> 00:43:39,920
evidence or the logic behind this

1432
00:43:44,710 --> 00:43:42,319
because we have leading edge thinkers

1433
00:43:46,950 --> 00:43:44,720
who say hey we think that advanced

1434
00:43:47,670 --> 00:43:46,960
aliens will have bracewell probes which

1435
00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:47,680
is a

1436
00:43:51,430 --> 00:43:49,599
class of probe that's sent out with

1437
00:43:53,510 --> 00:43:51,440
these ai on board which probably have

1438
00:43:55,109 --> 00:43:53,520
like volume and self-repair and all

1439
00:43:57,270 --> 00:43:55,119
these functions and these would be sent

1440
00:43:59,270 --> 00:43:57,280
out would land on asteroids and on

1441
00:44:00,230 --> 00:43:59,280
planets and monitor for radio waves and

1442
00:44:01,910 --> 00:44:00,240
monitor for

1443
00:44:03,430 --> 00:44:01,920
signs of life and that these things

1444
00:44:04,950 --> 00:44:03,440
would act like sentinels you know

1445
00:44:06,870 --> 00:44:04,960
you know this is not something i've come

1446
00:44:08,069 --> 00:44:06,880
up with these are leading edge fingers

1447
00:44:09,030 --> 00:44:08,079
saying that this is exactly what we

1448
00:44:10,309 --> 00:44:09,040
think they would have

1449
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:10,319
in fact in the last year i've seen a

1450
00:44:12,630 --> 00:44:11,280
couple different articles come out

1451
00:44:14,550 --> 00:44:12,640
saying you know are there

1452
00:44:16,550 --> 00:44:14,560
these probes sitting on asteroids you

1453
00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:16,560
know in our local area in fact there was

1454
00:44:19,349 --> 00:44:17,920
one asteroid that was

1455
00:44:21,030 --> 00:44:19,359
caught briefly i think in an orbit

1456
00:44:23,109 --> 00:44:21,040
around earth they were checking that for

1457
00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:23,119
signs of technologies so i mean

1458
00:44:26,790 --> 00:44:24,880
we're actually looking for these things

1459
00:44:28,710 --> 00:44:26,800
right in theory we're supposed to be

1460
00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:28,720
open to these things that's what science

1461
00:44:33,190 --> 00:44:31,920
at least pretends yet if you say that

1462
00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:33,200
hey you know it sounds like

1463
00:44:36,150 --> 00:44:34,480
the indigenous people in australia

1464
00:44:37,030 --> 00:44:36,160
encountered one and it actually has

1465
00:44:38,710 --> 00:44:37,040
activated

1466
00:44:40,390 --> 00:44:38,720
and it shared information look at the

1467
00:44:41,750 --> 00:44:40,400
look on those people's faces

1468
00:44:43,270 --> 00:44:41,760
by those same people who would write

1469
00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:43,280
those articles and would say we're

1470
00:44:45,589 --> 00:44:44,880
looking for these and we expect them to

1471
00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:45,599
be out there

1472
00:44:48,630 --> 00:44:47,040
tell them that you found one watch the

1473
00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:48,640
way their face changes

1474
00:44:52,230 --> 00:44:50,640
right right right that makes a lot of

1475
00:44:53,910 --> 00:44:52,240
sense so we have a problem there with

1476
00:44:54,870 --> 00:44:53,920
people not with the kind of technologies

1477
00:44:56,550 --> 00:44:54,880
we're describing

1478
00:44:58,390 --> 00:44:56,560
not with the behavior of it not with the

1479
00:45:00,390 --> 00:44:58,400
information it should we have a people

1480
00:45:03,589 --> 00:45:00,400
problem

1481
00:45:04,790 --> 00:45:03,599
yeah don't i know it and so you've taken

1482
00:45:07,510 --> 00:45:04,800
the insight

1483
00:45:08,870 --> 00:45:07,520
from this stone's messages and also

1484
00:45:10,950 --> 00:45:08,880
found a lot of other evidence

1485
00:45:13,030 --> 00:45:10,960
in the history in the terrain of the

1486
00:45:15,030 --> 00:45:13,040
earth and in dna itself that kind of

1487
00:45:16,390 --> 00:45:15,040
validates the story and

1488
00:45:18,069 --> 00:45:16,400
obviously we're talking about several

1489
00:45:19,829 --> 00:45:18,079
different things panspermia

1490
00:45:21,670 --> 00:45:19,839
way at the beginning but there is

1491
00:45:24,390 --> 00:45:21,680
another major chapter

1492
00:45:25,349 --> 00:45:24,400
where the big date is around seven

1493
00:45:27,349 --> 00:45:25,359
hundred thousand

1494
00:45:28,710 --> 00:45:27,359
or seven hundred and eighty thousand

1495
00:45:29,750 --> 00:45:28,720
years ago seven hundred and eighty

1496
00:45:32,230 --> 00:45:29,760
thousand years ago

1497
00:45:33,510 --> 00:45:32,240
and you found some genetic evidence that

1498
00:45:35,910 --> 00:45:33,520
there was a step

1499
00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:35,920
change in human evolution that coincides

1500
00:45:39,430 --> 00:45:36,880
with that time

1501
00:45:39,910 --> 00:45:39,440
but what's even more interesting to me

1502
00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:39,920
is

1503
00:45:44,069 --> 00:45:43,200
the prospect of and i quote material

1504
00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:44,079
evidence

1505
00:45:47,190 --> 00:45:46,400
proving that a vast crystalline

1506
00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:47,200
spaceship

1507
00:45:51,109 --> 00:45:50,160
exploded in orbit above australia around

1508
00:45:53,349 --> 00:45:51,119
this time

1509
00:45:54,550 --> 00:45:53,359
wow you got to break us in on this man

1510
00:45:57,430 --> 00:45:54,560
pretty amazing

1511
00:45:58,950 --> 00:45:57,440
sure sure and he should wiggle anyone

1512
00:46:00,150 --> 00:45:58,960
and obviously again

1513
00:46:02,069 --> 00:46:00,160
we'll go through the evidence of this

1514
00:46:03,510 --> 00:46:02,079
but what i was a pre-face again was

1515
00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:03,520
saying there will be a people problem

1516
00:46:05,829 --> 00:46:04,079
with this

1517
00:46:07,510 --> 00:46:05,839
not an evidential problem because it

1518
00:46:09,990 --> 00:46:07,520
just sounds so big

1519
00:46:11,109 --> 00:46:10,000
and for some people so ridiculous the

1520
00:46:12,150 --> 00:46:11,119
idea that you know this could be

1521
00:46:14,230 --> 00:46:12,160
not he could have happened that we could

1522
00:46:16,230 --> 00:46:14,240
find evidence in it because people like

1523
00:46:18,150 --> 00:46:16,240
their aliens far far away

1524
00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:18,160
we're using radio waves where you can

1525
00:46:20,790 --> 00:46:20,400
never you know get any direct evidence

1526
00:46:22,150 --> 00:46:20,800
of them

1527
00:46:24,069 --> 00:46:22,160
they're comfortable with that now this

1528
00:46:25,750 --> 00:46:24,079
is an uncomfortable story because it's

1529
00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:25,760
bringing it all the way to earth

1530
00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:28,400
and with physical evidence okay so we

1531
00:46:32,710 --> 00:46:30,480
are told that there is this

1532
00:46:34,230 --> 00:46:32,720
crystalline structure you know that's

1533
00:46:36,150 --> 00:46:34,240
what the information tells us so i'm

1534
00:46:38,150 --> 00:46:36,160
looking at this i'm thinking okay

1535
00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:38,160
this is describes in some detail we've

1536
00:46:42,710 --> 00:46:40,960
got this vast crystalline craft that

1537
00:46:44,230 --> 00:46:42,720
is destroyed it's hit with energy

1538
00:46:46,790 --> 00:46:44,240
weapons it says you know it basically is

1539
00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:46,800
melted and explodes and finally the last

1540
00:46:49,510 --> 00:46:47,280
stage is

1541
00:46:50,630 --> 00:46:49,520
closed like a nuclear explosion but this

1542
00:46:52,790 --> 00:46:50,640
is reduced to a

1543
00:46:54,710 --> 00:46:52,800
liquid in space like liquid glass it's

1544
00:46:57,109 --> 00:46:54,720
melted and it says some of this

1545
00:46:58,550 --> 00:46:57,119
debris this molten debris showers down

1546
00:47:00,470 --> 00:46:58,560
across the earth

1547
00:47:01,910 --> 00:47:00,480
like it's in orbit so it's destroyed it

1548
00:47:04,630 --> 00:47:01,920
showers down across the earth

1549
00:47:05,670 --> 00:47:04,640
i'm thinking okay could something like

1550
00:47:07,670 --> 00:47:05,680
that remain

1551
00:47:09,750 --> 00:47:07,680
and i think initially valerie had the

1552
00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:09,760
sensors this was somewhere towards 900

1553
00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:10,480
000 years ago

1554
00:47:14,069 --> 00:47:12,400
it's a really ancient event and i'm

1555
00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:14,079
still thinking okay

1556
00:47:17,589 --> 00:47:15,359
let's have a look you know could there

1557
00:47:19,829 --> 00:47:17,599
be something in the geological record

1558
00:47:21,109 --> 00:47:19,839
like that you know obviously metals we'd

1559
00:47:22,950 --> 00:47:21,119
expect to

1560
00:47:24,230 --> 00:47:22,960
rest away or decompose normally they

1561
00:47:26,150 --> 00:47:24,240
would but

1562
00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:26,160
silica and glasses and stuff can persist

1563
00:47:28,390 --> 00:47:27,440
a long time

1564
00:47:30,069 --> 00:47:28,400
so i had to look through and i'm

1565
00:47:31,589 --> 00:47:30,079
thinking you know i probably won't find

1566
00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:31,599
anything and i'm not very hopeful you

1567
00:47:35,190 --> 00:47:33,040
know i believe this story you know

1568
00:47:37,109 --> 00:47:35,200
for my own reasons i think it's true but

1569
00:47:39,430 --> 00:47:37,119
i don't expect to find this

1570
00:47:40,870 --> 00:47:39,440
turns out that there is a century-long

1571
00:47:42,870 --> 00:47:40,880
mystery in science

1572
00:47:44,390 --> 00:47:42,880
the australia tech type mystery you know

1573
00:47:46,790 --> 00:47:44,400
your papers with that

1574
00:47:48,630 --> 00:47:46,800
title on them but you've had basically a

1575
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:48,640
century of different camps trying to

1576
00:47:51,829 --> 00:47:50,000
explain this material it's just like

1577
00:47:52,630 --> 00:47:51,839
tech type which is uh i saw a tektite is

1578
00:47:54,950 --> 00:47:52,640
a kind of

1579
00:47:56,710 --> 00:47:54,960
a glass a mineral glass that's been

1580
00:47:59,990 --> 00:47:56,720
produced from high energy events

1581
00:48:01,349 --> 00:48:00,000
of some sort and this unlike any other

1582
00:48:03,109 --> 00:48:01,359
field of this material the

1583
00:48:03,670 --> 00:48:03,119
australitectite strewn field as it's

1584
00:48:06,309 --> 00:48:03,680
called

1585
00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:06,319
stretches all the way from antarctica up

1586
00:48:10,069 --> 00:48:07,440
to southern china

1587
00:48:10,950 --> 00:48:10,079
in fact there's australite found on

1588
00:48:13,910 --> 00:48:10,960
somewhere between

1589
00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:13,920
20 to 30 percent of the earth's surface

1590
00:48:16,069 --> 00:48:15,119
now you know people should take that

1591
00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:16,079
into their brain think of that as

1592
00:48:19,430 --> 00:48:17,440
staggering for a start

1593
00:48:20,870 --> 00:48:19,440
a staggering distribution of material

1594
00:48:22,950 --> 00:48:20,880
right now

1595
00:48:25,190 --> 00:48:22,960
we don't see that from any normal

1596
00:48:26,710 --> 00:48:25,200
impacts right you know we have asteroids

1597
00:48:29,750 --> 00:48:26,720
impacts all over the planet we've had

1598
00:48:31,750 --> 00:48:29,760
those since the beginning up until now

1599
00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:31,760
we don't see that so although in one

1600
00:48:34,069 --> 00:48:33,280
camp the scientists have said we think

1601
00:48:36,150 --> 00:48:34,079
this is some kind

1602
00:48:37,829 --> 00:48:36,160
of major impact and it's thrown this

1603
00:48:38,950 --> 00:48:37,839
material up and it's managed to go all

1604
00:48:41,190 --> 00:48:38,960
the way from

1605
00:48:43,030 --> 00:48:41,200
southeast asia and down to antarctica

1606
00:48:43,750 --> 00:48:43,040
which is just extraordinary if you think

1607
00:48:45,270 --> 00:48:43,760
of

1608
00:48:47,109 --> 00:48:45,280
how far that you're talking about

1609
00:48:49,270 --> 00:48:47,119
throwing material from an impact

1610
00:48:51,349 --> 00:48:49,280
right and then there's another camp that

1611
00:48:53,349 --> 00:48:51,359
was arguing that no this maybe was lunar

1612
00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:53,359
material that suddenly hit the moon

1613
00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:55,359
bits broke off and that you know showers

1614
00:48:59,109 --> 00:48:56,640
debris reached the earth

1615
00:49:00,549 --> 00:48:59,119
and then rained down that way and this

1616
00:49:00,870 --> 00:49:00,559
was this debate they've been raging

1617
00:49:04,069 --> 00:49:00,880
right

1618
00:49:05,829 --> 00:49:04,079
for decades before i stumbled on this

1619
00:49:07,510 --> 00:49:05,839
and both of them the reason why this

1620
00:49:09,510 --> 00:49:07,520
argument continued of course is that

1621
00:49:10,950 --> 00:49:09,520
neither camp could explain all of the

1622
00:49:13,190 --> 00:49:10,960
evidence and all the anomalies

1623
00:49:14,390 --> 00:49:13,200
but each one had some strengths over the

1624
00:49:16,309 --> 00:49:14,400
other right

1625
00:49:17,670 --> 00:49:16,319
so this is why it just it persisted and

1626
00:49:19,670 --> 00:49:17,680
then what had happened in the last few

1627
00:49:21,030 --> 00:49:19,680
years was that the lunar theory had been

1628
00:49:24,309 --> 00:49:21,040
really weakened by

1629
00:49:24,710 --> 00:49:24,319
analysis of moon rocks which suggested

1630
00:49:27,190 --> 00:49:24,720
that

1631
00:49:28,309 --> 00:49:27,200
the couldn't really originate from the

1632
00:49:29,910 --> 00:49:28,319
moon

1633
00:49:32,150 --> 00:49:29,920
the composition wasn't close enough

1634
00:49:34,470 --> 00:49:32,160
right so by default

1635
00:49:35,670 --> 00:49:34,480
the impact hypothesis became the

1636
00:49:37,990 --> 00:49:35,680
preferred or you know

1637
00:49:39,910 --> 00:49:38,000
the consensus theory but not because

1638
00:49:42,309 --> 00:49:39,920
it's suddenly strengthened but just its

1639
00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:42,319
opponents kind of lost by the fact that

1640
00:49:45,910 --> 00:49:44,400
this material didn't match

1641
00:49:48,230 --> 00:49:45,920
so when you look closer though this you

1642
00:49:50,950 --> 00:49:48,240
know now accepted

1643
00:49:52,950 --> 00:49:50,960
theory it's full of holes i mean for a

1644
00:49:55,349 --> 00:49:52,960
start you've got this problem that

1645
00:49:56,470 --> 00:49:55,359
nasa did a lot of experiments with this

1646
00:49:58,069 --> 00:49:56,480
right with this tecton

1647
00:49:59,270 --> 00:49:58,079
and they found that these tech type

1648
00:50:00,309 --> 00:49:59,280
buttons that they're called now this is

1649
00:50:01,910 --> 00:50:00,319
a particular

1650
00:50:03,990 --> 00:50:01,920
shape of tactile it's only known from

1651
00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:04,000
the australian strewn field so once in

1652
00:50:08,150 --> 00:50:06,400
the whole 4.6 billion years of history

1653
00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:08,160
once do we get this material once do we

1654
00:50:11,109 --> 00:50:09,599
get it shaped in this way

1655
00:50:12,790 --> 00:50:11,119
they said that these tech type buttons

1656
00:50:16,549 --> 00:50:12,800
can only have formed

1657
00:50:18,470 --> 00:50:16,559
if a body is in orbit and explodes

1658
00:50:20,230 --> 00:50:18,480
then some of this debris enters the

1659
00:50:22,069 --> 00:50:20,240
earth's atmosphere at a shallow

1660
00:50:24,390 --> 00:50:22,079
angle it's basically like a decaying

1661
00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:24,400
orbit and slowly enters

1662
00:50:27,670 --> 00:50:26,400
so it has time for secondary heating so

1663
00:50:28,870 --> 00:50:27,680
you start off with these little spheres

1664
00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:28,880
of glass because

1665
00:50:32,150 --> 00:50:30,480
liquid in space will take a spherical

1666
00:50:34,950 --> 00:50:32,160
shape then they froze

1667
00:50:36,309 --> 00:50:34,960
so you get these spherical glass balls

1668
00:50:36,630 --> 00:50:36,319
these have started to come in and then

1669
00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:36,640
the

1670
00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:41,520
get this kind of

1671
00:50:44,950 --> 00:50:43,440
nose cone shape it's clearly shaped by

1672
00:50:46,710 --> 00:50:44,960
aerodynamic forces and that's why nasa

1673
00:50:49,349 --> 00:50:46,720
recognized this obviously was shaped by

1674
00:50:50,870 --> 00:50:49,359
aerodynamic forces design nose cones so

1675
00:50:52,549 --> 00:50:50,880
these things come in like that and then

1676
00:50:54,069 --> 00:50:52,559
they've rained down across

1677
00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:54,079
essentially all across southern

1678
00:50:57,589 --> 00:50:55,920
australia so many places they're found

1679
00:50:59,190 --> 00:50:57,599
in that form the rest of the textile

1680
00:51:00,870 --> 00:50:59,200
string fields in other forms dumbbells

1681
00:51:02,630 --> 00:51:00,880
teardrop shapes and other shapes

1682
00:51:04,309 --> 00:51:02,640
now the other problem you have here is

1683
00:51:05,109 --> 00:51:04,319
that within some of these you have

1684
00:51:08,549 --> 00:51:05,119
bubbles

1685
00:51:10,230 --> 00:51:08,559
vacuum so again

1686
00:51:11,670 --> 00:51:10,240
where you get hard vacuum you don't get

1687
00:51:14,309 --> 00:51:11,680
it on earth in an impact

1688
00:51:15,510 --> 00:51:14,319
you get that in space and another few

1689
00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:15,520
things there is there's something called

1690
00:51:18,870 --> 00:51:16,800
a moses law

1691
00:51:20,870 --> 00:51:18,880
moses law is to do with formations of

1692
00:51:22,790 --> 00:51:20,880
glasses and that you know when you

1693
00:51:25,270 --> 00:51:22,800
try to make a homogenous glass without

1694
00:51:26,549 --> 00:51:25,280
bubbles in it you have to kind of heat

1695
00:51:28,150 --> 00:51:26,559
in a certain way over a certain period

1696
00:51:28,870 --> 00:51:28,160
of time to make it homogeneous and get

1697
00:51:30,150 --> 00:51:28,880
rid of the bubbles

1698
00:51:32,309 --> 00:51:30,160
and we do that when we're forming

1699
00:51:33,829 --> 00:51:32,319
glasses now osteotomy is very

1700
00:51:35,109 --> 00:51:33,839
homogeneous you find that across all

1701
00:51:35,990 --> 00:51:35,119
these different pieces the composition

1702
00:51:37,990 --> 00:51:36,000
is more or less the same

1703
00:51:38,950 --> 00:51:38,000
and you don't find partly melted

1704
00:51:39,670 --> 00:51:38,960
material you know where if you have an

1705
00:51:41,510 --> 00:51:39,680
impact

1706
00:51:43,589 --> 00:51:41,520
you can imagine around the edges what

1707
00:51:46,710 --> 00:51:43,599
you have is chunks where there's rock

1708
00:51:48,230 --> 00:51:46,720
with part melt protective right so

1709
00:51:50,069 --> 00:51:48,240
you'll find that and also you'll find

1710
00:51:51,349 --> 00:51:50,079
that where you hit granite

1711
00:51:52,390 --> 00:51:51,359
you'll have more granite in a piece and

1712
00:51:53,829 --> 00:51:52,400
where it sounds down you're more

1713
00:51:55,030 --> 00:51:53,839
sensitive so you can understand anything

1714
00:51:56,790 --> 00:51:55,040
you have an object if it's hitting into

1715
00:51:57,750 --> 00:51:56,800
an area with mixed rock

1716
00:52:00,069 --> 00:51:57,760
you're going to have different

1717
00:52:01,190 --> 00:52:00,079
composition in different pieces

1718
00:52:03,510 --> 00:52:01,200
and you're going to have some that are

1719
00:52:05,349 --> 00:52:03,520
part rock part glass it's just

1720
00:52:07,990 --> 00:52:05,359
that's how it is yeah they fuse together

1721
00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:08,000
somewhat yeah because it's a singular

1722
00:52:11,750 --> 00:52:10,480
energy event momentary singular event

1723
00:52:13,109 --> 00:52:11,760
and so that's how well you know you've

1724
00:52:16,069 --> 00:52:13,119
got a lot of bubbles in it as well

1725
00:52:18,069 --> 00:52:16,079
a lot of bubbles instead with the

1726
00:52:20,309 --> 00:52:18,079
australia is as though the energy

1727
00:52:22,230 --> 00:52:20,319
heating is over some period of time

1728
00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:22,240
which causes the idea we're told that

1729
00:52:24,230 --> 00:52:23,280
there's an energy weapon has been

1730
00:52:26,390 --> 00:52:24,240
heating this ship

1731
00:52:27,750 --> 00:52:26,400
melting it and blows it up right and

1732
00:52:28,069 --> 00:52:27,760
that's exactly what we're seeing with

1733
00:52:32,069 --> 00:52:28,079
this

1734
00:52:33,910 --> 00:52:32,079
signs of part mel or bits of rock

1735
00:52:34,950 --> 00:52:33,920
in there nothing like that and it's got

1736
00:52:35,670 --> 00:52:34,960
vacuum bubbles so we know what's

1737
00:52:37,510 --> 00:52:35,680
happening in space

1738
00:52:39,109 --> 00:52:37,520
nasa are telling us the source body was

1739
00:52:40,710 --> 00:52:39,119
in orbit and there's a whole problem

1740
00:52:42,470 --> 00:52:40,720
with that what's it doing in orbit

1741
00:52:43,910 --> 00:52:42,480
because a huge object like that

1742
00:52:45,510 --> 00:52:43,920
shouldn't be able to be captured

1743
00:52:47,270 --> 00:52:45,520
by earth's gravity because our planet is

1744
00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:47,280
not massive enough like jupiter and

1745
00:52:50,710 --> 00:52:48,960
saturn which can capture

1746
00:52:52,150 --> 00:52:50,720
quite large objects even temporarily

1747
00:52:54,230 --> 00:52:52,160
capture comets

1748
00:52:55,589 --> 00:52:54,240
earth can't we sometimes capture things

1749
00:52:56,790 --> 00:52:55,599
car sized right

1750
00:52:59,270 --> 00:52:56,800
so we have another problem what's this

1751
00:53:02,309 --> 00:52:59,280
even doing in orbit also we have

1752
00:53:03,990 --> 00:53:02,319
80 silica no asteroids or objects in

1753
00:53:06,470 --> 00:53:04,000
space are known to have more than 60

1754
00:53:08,069 --> 00:53:06,480
silica that we've ever found so we have

1755
00:53:09,510 --> 00:53:08,079
this now again this more increasingly

1756
00:53:12,870 --> 00:53:09,520
bizarre object

1757
00:53:14,309 --> 00:53:12,880
that is matching precisely with the

1758
00:53:18,069 --> 00:53:14,319
information that this

1759
00:53:19,430 --> 00:53:18,079
object has transferred right

1760
00:53:21,349 --> 00:53:19,440
so you get to that point like hang on

1761
00:53:22,470 --> 00:53:21,359
and this is bizarre and i'm thinking in

1762
00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:22,480
the beginning this i wouldn't even find

1763
00:53:25,030 --> 00:53:23,280
any sign of it

1764
00:53:28,150 --> 00:53:25,040
instead i find that there's this mystery

1765
00:53:31,030 --> 00:53:28,160
that is only solved by it

1766
00:53:32,790 --> 00:53:31,040
i love it yes this is uh you know why i

1767
00:53:34,309 --> 00:53:32,800
do this show these kind of stories and

1768
00:53:37,030 --> 00:53:34,319
it seems like you found

1769
00:53:38,630 --> 00:53:37,040
the remnants of the mothership but who

1770
00:53:40,950 --> 00:53:38,640
blew it up how did it blow up

1771
00:53:42,150 --> 00:53:40,960
the way it did well then you get into

1772
00:53:43,910 --> 00:53:42,160
bits that yeah i can certainly give you

1773
00:53:45,030 --> 00:53:43,920
what's told i can't prove it

1774
00:53:47,030 --> 00:53:45,040
you know that's obviously the major

1775
00:53:47,990 --> 00:53:47,040
focus in the book obviously is on as you

1776
00:53:50,230 --> 00:53:48,000
know the three

1777
00:53:51,349 --> 00:53:50,240
major events which i'm able to provide

1778
00:53:53,430 --> 00:53:51,359
good evidence for

1779
00:53:54,470 --> 00:53:53,440
but we are told that yeah that there is

1780
00:53:56,630 --> 00:53:54,480
already a

1781
00:53:58,230 --> 00:53:56,640
group of advanced beings on this planet

1782
00:53:59,670 --> 00:53:58,240
what we might refer to now as crypto

1783
00:54:00,950 --> 00:53:59,680
terrestrials

1784
00:54:01,910 --> 00:54:00,960
they essentially are not even

1785
00:54:03,510 --> 00:54:01,920
necessarily what we call

1786
00:54:06,630 --> 00:54:03,520
extraterrestrial right because

1787
00:54:09,030 --> 00:54:06,640
they supposedly been here pretty much

1788
00:54:10,630 --> 00:54:09,040
since very early on in earth's history

1789
00:54:11,990 --> 00:54:10,640
right there's a group of beings here

1790
00:54:14,950 --> 00:54:12,000
that are described as kind of

1791
00:54:15,829 --> 00:54:14,960
reptilian humanoid in form now i'm sure

1792
00:54:17,349 --> 00:54:15,839
most people

1793
00:54:19,430 --> 00:54:17,359
out there that listen to your show or

1794
00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:19,440
into any of these topics are familiar

1795
00:54:22,549 --> 00:54:20,640
the idea that there are people

1796
00:54:23,190 --> 00:54:22,559
encountering reptilian-looking beings or

1797
00:54:25,510 --> 00:54:23,200
they've

1798
00:54:27,030 --> 00:54:25,520
heard about them in conspiracy theory

1799
00:54:29,270 --> 00:54:27,040
and all the rest

1800
00:54:30,150 --> 00:54:29,280
like it or not that's what we're told

1801
00:54:31,990 --> 00:54:30,160
they're like

1802
00:54:34,870 --> 00:54:32,000
and that there has been this agreement

1803
00:54:36,950 --> 00:54:34,880
between them and this visiting

1804
00:54:38,309 --> 00:54:36,960
group or a collective of beings from

1805
00:54:40,069 --> 00:54:38,319
various places in

1806
00:54:41,589 --> 00:54:40,079
the universe that have arrived in a

1807
00:54:43,670 --> 00:54:41,599
single ship there's a kind of an

1808
00:54:44,390 --> 00:54:43,680
alliance or a federation or whatever you

1809
00:54:46,390 --> 00:54:44,400
want to call it

1810
00:54:48,390 --> 00:54:46,400
this is not a ship just of one type of

1811
00:54:50,069 --> 00:54:48,400
entities but there's been an agreement

1812
00:54:51,750 --> 00:54:50,079
between them that the earth is meant to

1813
00:54:53,510 --> 00:54:51,760
be getting handed over to this alliance

1814
00:54:55,270 --> 00:54:53,520
and apparently it once was sort of under

1815
00:54:55,990 --> 00:54:55,280
their direction it was once seeded by

1816
00:54:57,589 --> 00:54:56,000
them

1817
00:54:59,510 --> 00:54:57,599
and that there has been this brokered

1818
00:55:01,670 --> 00:54:59,520
agreement to hand over the planet

1819
00:55:03,030 --> 00:55:01,680
there's a betrayal the ship is attacked

1820
00:55:04,950 --> 00:55:03,040
it's hit with what they describe as i

1821
00:55:07,109 --> 00:55:04,960
think it's electromagnetic resonance

1822
00:55:09,190 --> 00:55:07,119
weaponry and we sort of entrains

1823
00:55:10,230 --> 00:55:09,200
the ship and you know vibrates it and

1824
00:55:13,109 --> 00:55:10,240
melts it and then it

1825
00:55:14,230 --> 00:55:13,119
blows up and so we have then another

1826
00:55:15,430 --> 00:55:14,240
group on board and there's different

1827
00:55:17,190 --> 00:55:15,440
beings some of these are described as

1828
00:55:19,109 --> 00:55:17,200
silica beings that have a kind of a

1829
00:55:21,030 --> 00:55:19,119
frame like a robot frame that moves them

1830
00:55:22,309 --> 00:55:21,040
around you know they're not even

1831
00:55:24,230 --> 00:55:22,319
biological some of them don't even seem

1832
00:55:24,870 --> 00:55:24,240
to be fully in our reality they're kind

1833
00:55:26,870 --> 00:55:24,880
of

1834
00:55:28,069 --> 00:55:26,880
interdimensional beings so it's a really

1835
00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:28,079
complex

1836
00:55:31,589 --> 00:55:30,240
scenario that we're told about which it

1837
00:55:34,230 --> 00:55:31,599
should

1838
00:55:35,589 --> 00:55:34,240
sometimes we want things to be nice and

1839
00:55:37,829 --> 00:55:35,599
easy like in a movie right but

1840
00:55:39,670 --> 00:55:37,839
this is far more complex than that and

1841
00:55:41,510 --> 00:55:39,680
so we don't have a nice simple story

1842
00:55:43,750 --> 00:55:41,520
and that these beings that on earth

1843
00:55:45,589 --> 00:55:43,760
there is consequences for them

1844
00:55:46,950 --> 00:55:45,599
because we're so five years later

1845
00:55:48,710 --> 00:55:46,960
another group of extraterrestrials

1846
00:55:51,109 --> 00:55:48,720
arrive who are part of this

1847
00:55:52,710 --> 00:55:51,119
greater alliance and that they are

1848
00:55:55,829 --> 00:55:52,720
described as a leonine

1849
00:55:56,630 --> 00:55:55,839
humanoid race of warriors that have a

1850
00:55:59,990 --> 00:55:56,640
long

1851
00:56:01,190 --> 00:56:00,000
reptilians

1852
00:56:03,190 --> 00:56:01,200
and they come in and say you know you've

1853
00:56:03,910 --> 00:56:03,200
destroyed a peaceful colony ship get off

1854
00:56:05,190 --> 00:56:03,920
the planet

1855
00:56:06,470 --> 00:56:05,200
that was the agreement if you don't get

1856
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:06,480
off the planet we're going to bombard

1857
00:56:08,789 --> 00:56:06,960
you

1858
00:56:10,390 --> 00:56:08,799
and they said most of them flee they go

1859
00:56:11,990 --> 00:56:10,400
through at stargate or orion

1860
00:56:13,910 --> 00:56:12,000
apparently it's where they come from but

1861
00:56:15,430 --> 00:56:13,920
they flee and that there's some of them

1862
00:56:16,870 --> 00:56:15,440
don't and they begin a bombardment and

1863
00:56:19,030 --> 00:56:16,880
they say but we don't use

1864
00:56:20,230 --> 00:56:19,040
lasers or anything so we pull in

1865
00:56:22,710 --> 00:56:20,240
asteroids

1866
00:56:23,589 --> 00:56:22,720
from nearby and we bombard the planet

1867
00:56:26,150 --> 00:56:23,599
with those

1868
00:56:27,589 --> 00:56:26,160
and they clarify if we want to we can

1869
00:56:30,150 --> 00:56:27,599
crack a planet open

1870
00:56:31,510 --> 00:56:30,160
no problems so think about those scales

1871
00:56:32,150 --> 00:56:31,520
the kind of things that go on out there

1872
00:56:34,390 --> 00:56:32,160
if that's you

1873
00:56:35,910 --> 00:56:34,400
accept this there's not just you know

1874
00:56:38,150 --> 00:56:35,920
people you shoot some razor

1875
00:56:40,069 --> 00:56:38,160
razor laser that no no they literally

1876
00:56:41,750 --> 00:56:40,079
just pull in some asteroids

1877
00:56:43,430 --> 00:56:41,760
send them down and so they do that and

1878
00:56:44,630 --> 00:56:43,440
they bombard these areas where they're

1879
00:56:47,589 --> 00:56:44,640
supposedly underground

1880
00:56:48,789 --> 00:56:47,599
bases of this other party and destroy

1881
00:56:51,349 --> 00:56:48,799
most of those

1882
00:56:53,030 --> 00:56:51,359
now we assumed that they are at the same

1883
00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:53,040
time protecting the areas

1884
00:56:56,150 --> 00:56:54,720
where the survivors from the first ship

1885
00:56:57,670 --> 00:56:56,160
are now based

1886
00:56:59,510 --> 00:56:57,680
and that these survivors also have

1887
00:57:00,390 --> 00:56:59,520
decided to remain not to go where they

1888
00:57:01,750 --> 00:57:00,400
offered obviously

1889
00:57:02,630 --> 00:57:01,760
to leave but they've decided they're

1890
00:57:03,589 --> 00:57:02,640
going to remain and they're going to

1891
00:57:05,510 --> 00:57:03,599
modify

1892
00:57:07,270 --> 00:57:05,520
a hominin species on the planet

1893
00:57:10,630 --> 00:57:07,280
obviously where a lot of the

1894
00:57:10,950 --> 00:57:10,640
main thrust of the book goes so i should

1895
00:57:13,030 --> 00:57:10,960
say

1896
00:57:14,789 --> 00:57:13,040
sorry that again with that asteroid

1897
00:57:15,990 --> 00:57:14,799
bombardment as i clarify this was

1898
00:57:18,549 --> 00:57:16,000
another thing i thought well

1899
00:57:19,829 --> 00:57:18,559
you know if this is real couldn't we

1900
00:57:21,589 --> 00:57:19,839
find some evidence of an asteroid

1901
00:57:22,470 --> 00:57:21,599
bombardment right

1902
00:57:23,670 --> 00:57:22,480
and again this would be quite

1903
00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:23,680
extraordinary because the last time we

1904
00:57:26,630 --> 00:57:24,960
really had

1905
00:57:28,309 --> 00:57:26,640
impacts from all sides all the time

1906
00:57:29,990 --> 00:57:28,319
regularly it was kind of the late heavy

1907
00:57:32,390 --> 00:57:30,000
bombardment going back you know over

1908
00:57:34,069 --> 00:57:32,400
3.5 billion years ago and it was kind of

1909
00:57:35,270 --> 00:57:34,079
chaos in the solar system

1910
00:57:37,109 --> 00:57:35,280
so i'm thinking well if this is

1911
00:57:38,309 --> 00:57:37,119
multi-directional bombardment surely we

1912
00:57:40,230 --> 00:57:38,319
don't know about that i mean this you

1913
00:57:41,430 --> 00:57:40,240
know we all know about the dinosaurs

1914
00:57:42,789 --> 00:57:41,440
getting whacked and

1915
00:57:44,789 --> 00:57:42,799
you know we hear about other impact

1916
00:57:46,789 --> 00:57:44,799
events surely it'd be big news they'd be

1917
00:57:48,710 --> 00:57:46,799
like nat geo specials on you know the

1918
00:57:51,829 --> 00:57:48,720
time the earth nearly died from

1919
00:57:52,710 --> 00:57:51,839
multi-directional hits right so i'm

1920
00:57:55,190 --> 00:57:52,720
thinking what

1921
00:57:56,390 --> 00:57:55,200
is that real you know can that be real

1922
00:57:57,430 --> 00:57:56,400
so i started digging into that and it

1923
00:58:01,430 --> 00:57:57,440
turned out that

1924
00:58:02,190 --> 00:58:01,440
only in 2015 that it had been detected

1925
00:58:04,309 --> 00:58:02,200
that there'd been a

1926
00:58:05,190 --> 00:58:04,319
multi-directional asteroid bombardment

1927
00:58:06,870 --> 00:58:05,200
of our planet

1928
00:58:09,109 --> 00:58:06,880
and when did it happen to be turns out

1929
00:58:10,470 --> 00:58:09,119
that it's dated to around 780 000 years

1930
00:58:13,750 --> 00:58:10,480
ago which when the australia

1931
00:58:16,150 --> 00:58:13,760
tech tight is dated to 780 000 years ago

1932
00:58:17,510 --> 00:58:16,160
right so you're like hang on what is

1933
00:58:19,190 --> 00:58:17,520
going on here so you've now you've got

1934
00:58:21,030 --> 00:58:19,200
this bizarre object breaking up

1935
00:58:22,390 --> 00:58:21,040
and you've got the multi-directional

1936
00:58:23,349 --> 00:58:22,400
asteroid bombardment and they've here in

1937
00:58:25,270 --> 00:58:23,359
central america

1938
00:58:27,030 --> 00:58:25,280
they hit down in tasmania they've hit

1939
00:58:28,230 --> 00:58:27,040
somewhere up in southeast asia

1940
00:58:30,470 --> 00:58:28,240
and the other thing about this you start

1941
00:58:31,270 --> 00:58:30,480
thinking okay was this a singular object

1942
00:58:32,870 --> 00:58:31,280
breaking up because

1943
00:58:35,030 --> 00:58:32,880
that might be an easier explanation

1944
00:58:36,470 --> 00:58:35,040
right but no because when they

1945
00:58:37,829 --> 00:58:36,480
did the analysis of different sites they

1946
00:58:39,750 --> 00:58:37,839
found the composition was different so

1947
00:58:41,349 --> 00:58:39,760
these are separate asteroids

1948
00:58:43,430 --> 00:58:41,359
coming in and that's exactly what we're

1949
00:58:44,549 --> 00:58:43,440
told in this material right it's saying

1950
00:58:46,230 --> 00:58:44,559
that you know they called in different

1951
00:58:47,030 --> 00:58:46,240
asteroids and just bombard us from all

1952
00:58:49,750 --> 00:58:47,040
sides

1953
00:58:51,109 --> 00:58:49,760
and exactly what they found bear in my

1954
00:58:52,230 --> 00:58:51,119
valerie's book that she wrote about this

1955
00:58:55,030 --> 00:58:52,240
i'm using as a source

1956
00:58:56,230 --> 00:58:55,040
is published in 2003 so she can't be

1957
00:58:57,750 --> 00:58:56,240
cherry-picking this out there making a

1958
00:58:58,549 --> 00:58:57,760
sci-fi story because it just did not

1959
00:59:00,230 --> 00:58:58,559
exist

1960
00:59:01,670 --> 00:59:00,240
at the time nobody knew this had

1961
00:59:04,230 --> 00:59:01,680
happened right

1962
00:59:05,829 --> 00:59:04,240
so you've now got another massive hit

1963
00:59:07,430 --> 00:59:05,839
and another anomalous event because

1964
00:59:09,430 --> 00:59:07,440
there's no other point in time

1965
00:59:10,710 --> 00:59:09,440
you know that we just don't see that

1966
00:59:12,069 --> 00:59:10,720
stuff happening right

1967
00:59:13,750 --> 00:59:12,079
we don't have objects every now and

1968
00:59:15,109 --> 00:59:13,760
again in orbit blowing up

1969
00:59:16,950 --> 00:59:15,119
we don't every now and again have

1970
00:59:18,630 --> 00:59:16,960
multi-directional asteroid bombers these

1971
00:59:22,069 --> 00:59:18,640
are unique

1972
00:59:25,510 --> 00:59:22,079
major anomalous events now coinciding

1973
00:59:27,589 --> 00:59:25,520
in time right and matching with

1974
00:59:29,030 --> 00:59:27,599
something that has purportedly come from

1975
00:59:30,630 --> 00:59:29,040
an intelligence that says it's next

1976
00:59:32,789 --> 00:59:30,640
stressful that knows our history

1977
00:59:33,750 --> 00:59:32,799
and is now being proven accurate and

1978
00:59:37,430 --> 00:59:33,760
accurate again

1979
00:59:39,589 --> 00:59:37,440
right right and man it is so epic

1980
00:59:41,510 --> 00:59:39,599
boring alien races i love it it's a

1981
00:59:42,710 --> 00:59:41,520
movie in itself if i had a few million i

1982
00:59:44,069 --> 00:59:42,720
wouldn't be writing a book about it i'll

1983
00:59:44,390 --> 00:59:44,079
tell you that i'm making a movie about

1984
00:59:48,309 --> 00:59:44,400
it

1985
00:59:50,870 --> 00:59:48,319
indeed and for the listeners context

1986
00:59:53,190 --> 00:59:50,880
that you know all this comes from this

1987
00:59:56,150 --> 00:59:53,200
al karinga stone

1988
00:59:57,190 --> 00:59:56,160
where is this stone today i know the

1989
00:59:59,270 --> 00:59:57,200
woman who

1990
01:00:01,510 --> 00:59:59,280
has it or communicates with it does have

1991
01:00:03,589 --> 01:00:01,520
a website seems to still be alive i mean

1992
01:00:05,270 --> 01:00:03,599
are these stories still coming out of it

1993
01:00:06,870 --> 01:00:05,280
no because it was as intended it was

1994
01:00:08,950 --> 01:00:06,880
given back to the the lady

1995
01:00:10,309 --> 01:00:08,960
to her temporarily and that it was then

1996
01:00:12,470 --> 01:00:10,319
forwarded on back to

1997
01:00:14,230 --> 01:00:12,480
the traditional custodians which are

1998
01:00:16,789 --> 01:00:14,240
zeinstein at diaries people

1999
01:00:17,990 --> 01:00:16,799
around uluru so that i imagine they

2000
01:00:20,549 --> 01:00:18,000
still have this

2001
01:00:21,430 --> 01:00:20,559
now would they come forward and share

2002
01:00:23,589 --> 01:00:21,440
maybe they will

2003
01:00:25,990 --> 01:00:23,599
you know if someone has contacts with

2004
01:00:27,670 --> 01:00:26,000
elders of the irente people

2005
01:00:29,270 --> 01:00:27,680
i want to look into that i mean i don't

2006
01:00:30,789 --> 01:00:29,280
personally have those contacts

2007
01:00:32,390 --> 01:00:30,799
but i don't know if they would tell you

2008
01:00:33,990 --> 01:00:32,400
again you're dealing with what should be

2009
01:00:35,910 --> 01:00:34,000
some of those sacred artifacts

2010
01:00:37,030 --> 01:00:35,920
of these people right so i don't know

2011
01:00:38,870 --> 01:00:37,040
whether i mean

2012
01:00:40,630 --> 01:00:38,880
if someone has that kind of connection

2013
01:00:43,990 --> 01:00:40,640
then maybe they can track it down

2014
01:00:45,270 --> 01:00:44,000
i assume it is there oh man yeah you

2015
01:00:50,069 --> 01:00:45,280
gotta try

2016
01:00:51,430 --> 01:00:50,079
a little bit more into the genetics of

2017
01:00:52,309 --> 01:00:51,440
the dna i know we're at the end of the

2018
01:00:53,910 --> 01:00:52,319
road but

2019
01:00:55,430 --> 01:00:53,920
you do a great job in the book of

2020
01:00:57,910 --> 01:00:55,440
breaking this stuff down and

2021
01:00:59,750 --> 01:00:57,920
dense dna talk and sometimes get a bit

2022
01:01:01,510 --> 01:00:59,760
too in the weeds for me but

2023
01:01:03,510 --> 01:01:01,520
are there a couple of points you'd want

2024
01:01:05,270 --> 01:01:03,520
to make people understand when it comes

2025
01:01:06,870 --> 01:01:05,280
to our genes and dna and some of the

2026
01:01:09,510 --> 01:01:06,880
weird stuff we got in there just to

2027
01:01:10,549 --> 01:01:09,520
round out our overall show today

2028
01:01:12,309 --> 01:01:10,559
sure and i think you know that's the

2029
01:01:13,990 --> 01:01:12,319
third point so the third biggie in the

2030
01:01:15,109 --> 01:01:14,000
book in terms of this narrative is that

2031
01:01:17,030 --> 01:01:15,119
you know we are a child

2032
01:01:18,630 --> 01:01:17,040
you know after having the ship destroyed

2033
01:01:19,670 --> 01:01:18,640
you know the impact we now have them

2034
01:01:21,190 --> 01:01:19,680
both dated

2035
01:01:23,190 --> 01:01:21,200
you know as soon as real events dated to

2036
01:01:24,870 --> 01:01:23,200
780 thousand years ago the third big one

2037
01:01:27,030 --> 01:01:24,880
of course is the claim that

2038
01:01:28,230 --> 01:01:27,040
the surviving extraterrestrials modify

2039
01:01:30,549 --> 01:01:28,240
an existing hominin

2040
01:01:31,430 --> 01:01:30,559
and they essentially make the first homo

2041
01:01:34,710 --> 01:01:31,440
sapiens

2042
01:01:37,190 --> 01:01:34,720
now in recent years the mainstream has

2043
01:01:39,030 --> 01:01:37,200
actually shifted their dates on this

2044
01:01:41,910 --> 01:01:39,040
they've now gone back to it being

2045
01:01:43,270 --> 01:01:41,920
somewhere in the region of 550 to 750

2046
01:01:44,870 --> 01:01:43,280
or so thousand years ago and if you look

2047
01:01:45,349 --> 01:01:44,880
at other studies they're suggesting 800

2048
01:01:46,549 --> 01:01:45,359
000

2049
01:01:48,630 --> 01:01:46,559
possibly before but there's a

2050
01:01:52,150 --> 01:01:48,640
coalescence there around this date

2051
01:01:53,589 --> 01:01:52,160
of 780 000 which happened to already be

2052
01:01:55,510 --> 01:01:53,599
known in the fossil records it was known

2053
01:01:58,230 --> 01:01:55,520
that from around 800 000 years ago

2054
01:02:00,470 --> 01:01:58,240
the human cranium goes into a mad like

2055
01:02:02,230 --> 01:02:00,480
acceleration so we knew from before

2056
01:02:04,390 --> 01:02:02,240
genetics we knew that something

2057
01:02:06,069 --> 01:02:04,400
weird happened around 800 thousand years

2058
01:02:07,750 --> 01:02:06,079
ago and the human brain just goes into

2059
01:02:10,950 --> 01:02:07,760
this off-the-scale kind of

2060
01:02:11,750 --> 01:02:10,960
acceleration structural changes size

2061
01:02:13,829 --> 01:02:11,760
changes

2062
01:02:15,430 --> 01:02:13,839
and now we have the genetics that is

2063
01:02:17,349 --> 01:02:15,440
backing that up you know we also know

2064
01:02:19,349 --> 01:02:17,359
now that homo sapiens themselves

2065
01:02:20,710 --> 01:02:19,359
are breaking off from some precursor

2066
01:02:22,630 --> 01:02:20,720
species around that time

2067
01:02:23,990 --> 01:02:22,640
we have neanderthals denisovans you know

2068
01:02:24,630 --> 01:02:24,000
modern teams all these large-brained

2069
01:02:27,270 --> 01:02:24,640
humans

2070
01:02:29,349 --> 01:02:27,280
are splitting off from a common ancestor

2071
01:02:31,510 --> 01:02:29,359
around about 780 000 years ago

2072
01:02:32,630 --> 01:02:31,520
right so that just to frame this a

2073
01:02:34,630 --> 01:02:32,640
little bit you know we now have

2074
01:02:37,430 --> 01:02:34,640
mainstream science catching up

2075
01:02:40,069 --> 01:02:37,440
with what i've put in books already

2076
01:02:41,670 --> 01:02:40,079
their dates have now slid to my dates

2077
01:02:43,109 --> 01:02:41,680
and they're now seeing that actually all

2078
01:02:44,069 --> 01:02:43,119
these different groups are splitting off

2079
01:02:46,549 --> 01:02:44,079
from some strange

2080
01:02:47,750 --> 01:02:46,559
happening around 780 thousand years ago

2081
01:02:50,069 --> 01:02:47,760
which if you think about it

2082
01:02:51,510 --> 01:02:50,079
if you've got experimentation going on

2083
01:02:53,750 --> 01:02:51,520
is it a shock that it's going to produce

2084
01:02:55,990 --> 01:02:53,760
more than one hominin lineage no

2085
01:02:57,349 --> 01:02:56,000
right because it's experimentation yeah

2086
01:02:59,190 --> 01:02:57,359
so you're ending up with different ones

2087
01:03:00,470 --> 01:02:59,200
in fact you may intend to do that to see

2088
01:03:02,230 --> 01:03:00,480
which one fares best

2089
01:03:04,150 --> 01:03:02,240
so you can make a few different lineages

2090
01:03:05,750 --> 01:03:04,160
right so we have that happening

2091
01:03:07,349 --> 01:03:05,760
so how do we validate that so if you go

2092
01:03:09,349 --> 01:03:07,359
down drill down into the

2093
01:03:10,710 --> 01:03:09,359
genomics what we find is one

2094
01:03:13,190 --> 01:03:10,720
particularly

2095
01:03:14,950 --> 01:03:13,200
compelling and important change is the

2096
01:03:16,549 --> 01:03:14,960
fusing of chromosome 2.

2097
01:03:19,109 --> 01:03:16,559
now i'm not the first person ever to

2098
01:03:22,309 --> 01:03:19,119
suggest that using chromosome 2 is a

2099
01:03:23,670 --> 01:03:22,319
marker for an alien intervention or a

2100
01:03:24,950 --> 01:03:23,680
god-like intervention if you go to the

2101
01:03:26,470 --> 01:03:24,960
creationists

2102
01:03:28,470 --> 01:03:26,480
they also the creation of scientists say

2103
01:03:29,910 --> 01:03:28,480
that chromosome 2 is you know

2104
01:03:31,270 --> 01:03:29,920
the difference between humans and all

2105
01:03:32,789 --> 01:03:31,280
the primates and why we're not really

2106
01:03:35,029 --> 01:03:32,799
primates and that we're god's

2107
01:03:36,150 --> 01:03:35,039
creation so you'll find that in there

2108
01:03:37,670 --> 01:03:36,160
but conversely also

2109
01:03:39,270 --> 01:03:37,680
you know that people like lloyd pie and

2110
01:03:41,270 --> 01:03:39,280
stuff in the past

2111
01:03:43,029 --> 01:03:41,280
suggested that chromosome 2 was a

2112
01:03:44,390 --> 01:03:43,039
signature of modification

2113
01:03:46,470 --> 01:03:44,400
but he of course unfortunately he passed

2114
01:03:47,829 --> 01:03:46,480
away before we got to the point now

2115
01:03:50,069 --> 01:03:47,839
where we can drill down and get

2116
01:03:51,589 --> 01:03:50,079
dating on this and stuff right we found

2117
01:03:52,870 --> 01:03:51,599
out now that neanderthals dinosaurs and

2118
01:03:55,510 --> 01:03:52,880
us we all share

2119
01:03:57,750 --> 01:03:55,520
this fusion of chromosome 2 so other

2120
01:03:59,349 --> 01:03:57,760
primates and other earlier humans had 48

2121
01:04:01,029 --> 01:03:59,359
chromosomes we have 46.

2122
01:04:02,950 --> 01:04:01,039
now what we find is an enzyme fusion

2123
01:04:05,109 --> 01:04:02,960
where there are deletions and additions

2124
01:04:06,549 --> 01:04:05,119
at the fusion site so it's not just

2125
01:04:08,150 --> 01:04:06,559
straight fusion it looks like someone

2126
01:04:09,990 --> 01:04:08,160
has added and taken away bits and is

2127
01:04:10,950 --> 01:04:10,000
also fused on an active gene which is

2128
01:04:12,470 --> 01:04:10,960
extraordinary

2129
01:04:15,829 --> 01:04:12,480
and that gene happens to be to do with

2130
01:04:17,109 --> 01:04:15,839
reproduction the immune system the brain

2131
01:04:18,230 --> 01:04:17,119
there's a few effects right understand

2132
01:04:19,750 --> 01:04:18,240
when chromosome confusion first of all

2133
01:04:20,390 --> 01:04:19,760
that usually when chromosomes fuse it's

2134
01:04:21,589 --> 01:04:20,400
a problem

2135
01:04:22,870 --> 01:04:21,599
that's the first thing sometimes it can

2136
01:04:23,829 --> 01:04:22,880
be neutral but usually it's a problem

2137
01:04:26,069 --> 01:04:23,839
really negative

2138
01:04:26,870 --> 01:04:26,079
now in this case is posited by the

2139
01:04:28,069 --> 01:04:26,880
academics that

2140
01:04:30,470 --> 01:04:28,079
the only way that you can have this

2141
01:04:32,150 --> 01:04:30,480
persist in the way that it has

2142
01:04:33,430 --> 01:04:32,160
is if it conferred extraordinary

2143
01:04:35,109 --> 01:04:33,440
benefits because you remember that there

2144
01:04:36,630 --> 01:04:35,119
was a total replacement all 48

2145
01:04:39,349 --> 01:04:36,640
chromosome humans disappear

2146
01:04:41,109 --> 01:04:39,359
and all we have is 46 chromosome humans

2147
01:04:42,470 --> 01:04:41,119
now you think it was a small group

2148
01:04:44,309 --> 01:04:42,480
and there's a massive population of the

2149
01:04:45,510 --> 01:04:44,319
others how does that happen right the

2150
01:04:47,029 --> 01:04:45,520
first thing they posit well it must have

2151
01:04:47,829 --> 01:04:47,039
had extraordinary benefits that meant

2152
01:04:49,750 --> 01:04:47,839
that they had

2153
01:04:50,789 --> 01:04:49,760
so much better survival abilities than

2154
01:04:52,549 --> 01:04:50,799
everyone else that they could

2155
01:04:53,829 --> 01:04:52,559
out-compete anybody

2156
01:04:55,109 --> 01:04:53,839
the second things that they probably

2157
01:04:56,950 --> 01:04:55,119
have had to have happened in a small

2158
01:04:59,430 --> 01:04:56,960
isolated population for it to become

2159
01:05:01,190 --> 01:04:59,440
first of all genetically persistent in

2160
01:05:02,549 --> 01:05:01,200
that population and not recessive you

2161
01:05:03,829 --> 01:05:02,559
need to have a small group with those

2162
01:05:05,029 --> 01:05:03,839
changes into breeding

2163
01:05:07,029 --> 01:05:05,039
it's not starting to sound to you like

2164
01:05:08,710 --> 01:05:07,039
some people in the lab right so you've

2165
01:05:09,750 --> 01:05:08,720
got this isolated small population where

2166
01:05:10,390 --> 01:05:09,760
it's becoming persistent where they're

2167
01:05:11,750 --> 01:05:10,400
intervening

2168
01:05:13,589 --> 01:05:11,760
and then when they're released out they

2169
01:05:15,109 --> 01:05:13,599
have these extraordinary benefits

2170
01:05:17,430 --> 01:05:15,119
above anyone else so they can do all

2171
01:05:18,789 --> 01:05:17,440
sorts of things but not only that i

2172
01:05:19,990 --> 01:05:18,799
think that we have here the signature of

2173
01:05:22,069 --> 01:05:20,000
something else called

2174
01:05:23,109 --> 01:05:22,079
what we would think of now is chris bar

2175
01:05:24,870 --> 01:05:23,119
gene drives

2176
01:05:26,069 --> 01:05:24,880
right now i'm gonna say it's exactly the

2177
01:05:27,670 --> 01:05:26,079
same i think we're talking about beings

2178
01:05:28,309 --> 01:05:27,680
that are well ahead but we are now just

2179
01:05:30,069 --> 01:05:28,319
on the

2180
01:05:31,829 --> 01:05:30,079
coattails of them because we have these

2181
01:05:34,470 --> 01:05:31,839
crispr gene drives where you can

2182
01:05:35,670 --> 01:05:34,480
not only can you modify the genome with

2183
01:05:37,430 --> 01:05:35,680
chris barr technologies

2184
01:05:39,190 --> 01:05:37,440
but with gene drive technologies what

2185
01:05:39,589 --> 01:05:39,200
you do is you modify in such a way is

2186
01:05:41,349 --> 01:05:39,599
that

2187
01:05:42,870 --> 01:05:41,359
when the two individuals you know the

2188
01:05:44,630 --> 01:05:42,880
male female mix

2189
01:05:46,390 --> 01:05:44,640
you don't have children instead of 50

2190
01:05:49,109 --> 01:05:46,400
information from each parent

2191
01:05:49,670 --> 01:05:49,119
like a normal scenario the modified

2192
01:05:52,549 --> 01:05:49,680
parent

2193
01:05:53,829 --> 01:05:52,559
information overwrites the other one and

2194
01:05:55,910 --> 01:05:53,839
you get a hundred percent

2195
01:05:57,270 --> 01:05:55,920
from that parent so if you imagine now

2196
01:05:58,789 --> 01:05:57,280
you've got these beans going out you

2197
01:06:00,390 --> 01:05:58,799
know they've made in our image now they

2198
01:06:00,870 --> 01:06:00,400
go forth and multiply like the biblical

2199
01:06:02,710 --> 01:06:00,880
kind of

2200
01:06:04,309 --> 01:06:02,720
these who send them out and now no

2201
01:06:05,589 --> 01:06:04,319
matter what other hominin they

2202
01:06:08,309 --> 01:06:05,599
interbreed with

2203
01:06:09,670 --> 01:06:08,319
the children will be these upgrades now

2204
01:06:11,589 --> 01:06:09,680
that makes a lot of sense especially now

2205
01:06:14,309 --> 01:06:11,599
that we know we're doing this with

2206
01:06:16,470 --> 01:06:14,319
mosquito populations experimenting with

2207
01:06:19,430 --> 01:06:16,480
funded by bill gates and darpa

2208
01:06:21,029 --> 01:06:19,440
so no worries there right of course not

2209
01:06:22,390 --> 01:06:21,039
now these are extinction technologies as

2210
01:06:24,710 --> 01:06:22,400
well because you can also

2211
01:06:26,390 --> 01:06:24,720
turn off the ability to have children

2212
01:06:27,589 --> 01:06:26,400
and stuff so if people want to be

2213
01:06:29,029 --> 01:06:27,599
worried about something

2214
01:06:31,109 --> 01:06:29,039
definitely worry about gene drives being

2215
01:06:32,630 --> 01:06:31,119
funded by darpa and bill gates

2216
01:06:34,950 --> 01:06:32,640
but we see the fingerprint for this in

2217
01:06:37,349 --> 01:06:34,960
the past and then on top of this

2218
01:06:38,950 --> 01:06:37,359
there are a number of interesting genes

2219
01:06:39,510 --> 01:06:38,960
for example there are brain genes one

2220
01:06:41,750 --> 01:06:39,520
that

2221
01:06:43,670 --> 01:06:41,760
is described as having appeared fully

2222
01:06:44,789 --> 01:06:43,680
formed out of non-coding dna and just

2223
01:06:46,950 --> 01:06:44,799
gives us these

2224
01:06:47,990 --> 01:06:46,960
amazing benefits in terms of the brain i

2225
01:06:48,309 --> 01:06:48,000
think it's the falls in the brain or

2226
01:06:49,510 --> 01:06:48,319
something

2227
01:06:52,309 --> 01:06:49,520
and there's another one which is

2228
01:06:53,109 --> 01:06:52,319
described as being a short segment of a

2229
01:06:54,630 --> 01:06:53,119
longer gene

2230
01:06:57,430 --> 01:06:54,640
that looks almost like it was cut out

2231
01:07:00,470 --> 01:06:57,440
and xeroxed and put back in their words

2232
01:07:01,190 --> 01:07:00,480
xerox like this is what we're doing now

2233
01:07:02,630 --> 01:07:01,200
and yet

2234
01:07:04,549 --> 01:07:02,640
these people looking at the genome are

2235
01:07:05,349 --> 01:07:04,559
finding those same kind of fingerprints

2236
01:07:06,870 --> 01:07:05,359
and looking like

2237
01:07:08,390 --> 01:07:06,880
pieces that literally were cut out

2238
01:07:09,829 --> 01:07:08,400
replicated put back in and gave us the

2239
01:07:11,349 --> 01:07:09,839
neocortex like the most advanced with

2240
01:07:12,870 --> 01:07:11,359
the brain the folds in the brain

2241
01:07:14,710 --> 01:07:12,880
all of this stuff that is unique to

2242
01:07:16,870 --> 01:07:14,720
modern humans and neanderthals you know

2243
01:07:18,549 --> 01:07:16,880
that was unique to homo sapiens

2244
01:07:20,230 --> 01:07:18,559
i include that denisovans and

2245
01:07:21,910 --> 01:07:20,240
neanderthals they're all homo sapiens

2246
01:07:23,029 --> 01:07:21,920
right in fact i think you saw there is

2247
01:07:24,630 --> 01:07:23,039
an article came out and said that

2248
01:07:26,390 --> 01:07:24,640
neanderthals and modern humans

2249
01:07:27,829 --> 01:07:26,400
were less different than grizzly bears

2250
01:07:28,870 --> 01:07:27,839
and polar bears which often have

2251
01:07:31,029 --> 01:07:28,880
children together

2252
01:07:32,710 --> 01:07:31,039
right right we were less different is

2253
01:07:33,349 --> 01:07:32,720
that sounding like a separate species to

2254
01:07:34,789 --> 01:07:33,359
you

2255
01:07:36,230 --> 01:07:34,799
right that we regularly could have

2256
01:07:37,109 --> 01:07:36,240
children the children were viable there

2257
01:07:38,950 --> 01:07:37,119
was no problem

2258
01:07:40,710 --> 01:07:38,960
right so we have all these large brained

2259
01:07:41,990 --> 01:07:40,720
homo sapiens that are all coming out of

2260
01:07:45,029 --> 01:07:42,000
this event and they have these

2261
01:07:45,829 --> 01:07:45,039
extraordinary gene changes chromosome

2262
01:07:47,990 --> 01:07:45,839
fusions

2263
01:07:49,349 --> 01:07:48,000
and most importantly and i'll just

2264
01:07:52,549 --> 01:07:49,359
quickly squeeze this in because

2265
01:07:54,150 --> 01:07:52,559
these hars or human accelerated regions

2266
01:07:56,150 --> 01:07:54,160
of which we now have hundreds and these

2267
01:07:56,630 --> 01:07:56,160
are regions where evolution seems to

2268
01:07:59,750 --> 01:07:56,640
have been

2269
01:08:02,150 --> 01:07:59,760
massively sped up somehow by not any

2270
01:08:03,750 --> 01:08:02,160
understood means yet understood

2271
01:08:05,750 --> 01:08:03,760
and that these are areas in the

2272
01:08:06,870 --> 01:08:05,760
non-coding dna

2273
01:08:08,870 --> 01:08:06,880
and they're also in areas that are

2274
01:08:09,829 --> 01:08:08,880
called highly conserved

2275
01:08:11,750 --> 01:08:09,839
now this is really important because

2276
01:08:12,630 --> 01:08:11,760
i'll explain in the book that if you

2277
01:08:14,230 --> 01:08:12,640
look at people that talk about you know

2278
01:08:15,029 --> 01:08:14,240
the idea of maybe aliens leaving a

2279
01:08:17,030 --> 01:08:15,039
message for us

2280
01:08:18,550 --> 01:08:17,040
in dna which mainstream people do

2281
01:08:19,749 --> 01:08:18,560
sometimes speculate on

2282
01:08:22,229 --> 01:08:19,759
he said the problem with that is you

2283
01:08:25,269 --> 01:08:22,239
know evolution removes that because

2284
01:08:29,189 --> 01:08:25,279
mutations occur changes good or bad

2285
01:08:32,789 --> 01:08:29,199
will erase those messages unless

2286
01:08:36,229 --> 01:08:32,799
the changes are made in non-coding dna

2287
01:08:38,470 --> 01:08:36,239
in highly conserved areas because those

2288
01:08:39,910 --> 01:08:38,480
almost never changed a message there or

2289
01:08:42,630 --> 01:08:39,920
change there can persist

2290
01:08:43,910 --> 01:08:42,640
to be found millions of years later now

2291
01:08:44,309 --> 01:08:43,920
funnily enough we've just started

2292
01:08:45,910 --> 01:08:44,319
finding

2293
01:08:47,990 --> 01:08:45,920
hundreds of these and i'll give you one

2294
01:08:49,669 --> 01:08:48,000
just one good example hr one the first

2295
01:08:53,829 --> 01:08:49,679
one that was detected

2296
01:08:54,950 --> 01:08:53,839
now there is a snippet of code 118 dna

2297
01:08:58,070 --> 01:08:54,960
letters long

2298
01:09:00,470 --> 01:08:58,080
and they contrasted it between chickens

2299
01:09:01,910 --> 01:09:00,480
chimpanzees and human beings now what

2300
01:09:03,189 --> 01:09:01,920
they found is that between the chicken

2301
01:09:05,430 --> 01:09:03,199
and the chimpanzee

2302
01:09:08,470 --> 01:09:05,440
there were two letters that had changed

2303
01:09:12,229 --> 01:09:08,480
over 300 million years of evolution

2304
01:09:14,870 --> 01:09:12,239
that is some stable code right yeah

2305
01:09:16,229 --> 01:09:14,880
now they then compared the chimpanzee to

2306
01:09:17,030 --> 01:09:16,239
the human that's supposed to have only

2307
01:09:19,110 --> 01:09:17,040
been set for

2308
01:09:20,309 --> 01:09:19,120
5 million 6 million years nowhere near

2309
01:09:21,669 --> 01:09:20,319
that 300 million

2310
01:09:23,749 --> 01:09:21,679
right and they said there should be no

2311
01:09:26,950 --> 01:09:23,759
difference what they found was 18

2312
01:09:27,430 --> 01:09:26,960
letters had changed so you have to sing

2313
01:09:29,189 --> 01:09:27,440
that in

2314
01:09:30,870 --> 01:09:29,199
i mean and they ran this through the

2315
01:09:32,709 --> 01:09:30,880
software and it came up with a

2316
01:09:34,149 --> 01:09:32,719
statistical chance of zero

2317
01:09:36,870 --> 01:09:34,159
but this having happened by any

2318
01:09:40,789 --> 01:09:36,880
understood evolutionary mechanisms

2319
01:09:42,309 --> 01:09:40,799
zero right so what the hell is going on

2320
01:09:43,189 --> 01:09:42,319
here and now they've found hundreds of

2321
01:09:46,789 --> 01:09:43,199
them and of course

2322
01:09:49,430 --> 01:09:46,799
what's my random mutations random

2323
01:09:50,709 --> 01:09:49,440
to me i imagine to you would be changes

2324
01:09:51,669 --> 01:09:50,719
all throughout the system right so

2325
01:09:53,430 --> 01:09:51,679
you've got changes of

2326
01:09:54,870 --> 01:09:53,440
you know elements to the kidney or the

2327
01:09:58,790 --> 01:09:54,880
skin you know

2328
01:10:00,229 --> 01:09:58,800
random right would you say that over 50

2329
01:10:02,390 --> 01:10:00,239
of these being to do with the brain

2330
01:10:05,669 --> 01:10:02,400
sounds like random to you

2331
01:10:06,790 --> 01:10:05,679
no does it sound very random to me right

2332
01:10:08,550 --> 01:10:06,800
so it turns out that's what is they

2333
01:10:09,830 --> 01:10:08,560
found over 50 percent to do with fetal

2334
01:10:11,110 --> 01:10:09,840
development of the brain

2335
01:10:12,630 --> 01:10:11,120
and also to do with these like the

2336
01:10:14,390 --> 01:10:12,640
opposable firms and stuff like that

2337
01:10:14,709 --> 01:10:14,400
we've got the things that differentiate

2338
01:10:16,229 --> 01:10:14,719
us

2339
01:10:18,149 --> 01:10:16,239
in fact a few of the articles say are

2340
01:10:19,270 --> 01:10:18,159
these hr's what make us different from

2341
01:10:20,950 --> 01:10:19,280
all of the primates

2342
01:10:22,550 --> 01:10:20,960
are these the fundamentals which is the

2343
01:10:24,550 --> 01:10:22,560
same things we said about chromosome 2.

2344
01:10:26,070 --> 01:10:24,560
so chromosome 2 and hars are now

2345
01:10:29,030 --> 01:10:26,080
considered to be basically

2346
01:10:30,709 --> 01:10:29,040
the fundamental changes that made us

2347
01:10:32,390 --> 01:10:30,719
different to all the other primates

2348
01:10:34,229 --> 01:10:32,400
damn and it turns out that they're

2349
01:10:35,669 --> 01:10:34,239
ominous

2350
01:10:37,430 --> 01:10:35,679
you nailed it man i'm really glad you

2351
01:10:38,310 --> 01:10:37,440
brought up the fusion of chromosome 2

2352
01:10:40,470 --> 01:10:38,320
that's something i've

2353
01:10:42,070 --> 01:10:40,480
always been interested in but haven't

2354
01:10:42,390 --> 01:10:42,080
really been able to make a ton of sense

2355
01:10:47,750 --> 01:10:42,400
of

2356
01:10:50,870 --> 01:10:47,760
you talk about

2357
01:10:54,310 --> 01:10:50,880
how weird it is evolutionarily that

2358
01:10:56,790 --> 01:10:54,320
our kids are born so half baked you know

2359
01:10:58,550 --> 01:10:56,800
it kind of takes a while for the human

2360
01:11:00,630 --> 01:10:58,560
to to form and it's reliant on the

2361
01:11:02,630 --> 01:11:00,640
mother for so long as opposed to

2362
01:11:04,390 --> 01:11:02,640
other animals that are like you know day

2363
01:11:07,030 --> 01:11:04,400
two they're walking

2364
01:11:07,990 --> 01:11:07,040
they're moving around uh we're just so

2365
01:11:09,510 --> 01:11:08,000
different so

2366
01:11:11,430 --> 01:11:09,520
very interesting and we're born as a

2367
01:11:12,149 --> 01:11:11,440
fetus basically we are born and still as

2368
01:11:13,430 --> 01:11:12,159
a fetus

2369
01:11:14,870 --> 01:11:13,440
who has to continue developing outside

2370
01:11:15,990 --> 01:11:14,880
the womb otherwise our brain you know

2371
01:11:18,550 --> 01:11:16,000
our head would be too big

2372
01:11:20,310 --> 01:11:18,560
to be born i should add as well sorry

2373
01:11:23,189 --> 01:11:20,320
i've always missed the point there that

2374
01:11:24,229 --> 01:11:23,199
with chromosome 2 the dating on that as

2375
01:11:26,310 --> 01:11:24,239
well has been done

2376
01:11:27,350 --> 01:11:26,320
by the british biologist he pointed out

2377
01:11:28,709 --> 01:11:27,360
the first of all obviously if it

2378
01:11:29,830 --> 01:11:28,719
happened before the split neanderthals

2379
01:11:31,430 --> 01:11:29,840
dinosaurs and us

2380
01:11:33,910 --> 01:11:31,440
that means it has to have happened at

2381
01:11:35,830 --> 01:11:33,920
least back towards that 750 to 800

2382
01:11:37,110 --> 01:11:35,840
thousand years ago when they split

2383
01:11:39,430 --> 01:11:37,120
but then he wanted to see whether it

2384
01:11:39,990 --> 01:11:39,440
went back further and so he did a deep

2385
01:11:41,350 --> 01:11:40,000
sort of chemical

2386
01:11:43,750 --> 01:11:41,360
analysis and concluded it had to have

2387
01:11:44,470 --> 01:11:43,760
happened somewhere around 750 000 years

2388
01:11:46,550 --> 01:11:44,480
ago

2389
01:11:47,510 --> 01:11:46,560
so again the dating has been done now on

2390
01:11:49,430 --> 01:11:47,520
chromosome 2

2391
01:11:51,590 --> 01:11:49,440
and it falls back onto that same moment

2392
01:11:53,189 --> 01:11:51,600
when the neanderthals are split so it's

2393
01:11:55,430 --> 01:11:53,199
fundamentally there

2394
01:11:58,310 --> 01:11:55,440
around that again around that 780

2395
01:12:02,709 --> 01:11:59,990
yep so you got it again so you get the

2396
01:12:04,550 --> 01:12:02,719
craft blowing up you get the bombardment

2397
01:12:07,030 --> 01:12:04,560
and the genetic changes with the brain

2398
01:12:08,630 --> 01:12:07,040
all occurring at 780 000 years ago

2399
01:12:10,550 --> 01:12:08,640
just to throw in another one people it

2400
01:12:11,750 --> 01:12:10,560
just so happens that 780 thousand years

2401
01:12:13,350 --> 01:12:11,760
ago was the last time we had a full

2402
01:12:15,430 --> 01:12:13,360
magnetic reversal on this planet so it's

2403
01:12:18,149 --> 01:12:15,440
like chicka ching jing four

2404
01:12:19,189 --> 01:12:18,159
mega weird anomalous massive events

2405
01:12:21,990 --> 01:12:19,199
catastrophic and

2406
01:12:23,669 --> 01:12:22,000
earth-changing events all colliding at

2407
01:12:25,110 --> 01:12:23,679
780 000 years ago

2408
01:12:26,790 --> 01:12:25,120
and yet this is a period that i've not

2409
01:12:28,550 --> 01:12:26,800
seen any nat geo special about so what

2410
01:12:29,430 --> 01:12:28,560
the hell is going on here that

2411
01:12:32,070 --> 01:12:29,440
there seems to be some kind of

2412
01:12:34,430 --> 01:12:32,080
deliberate ignorance or ignoring of

2413
01:12:36,470 --> 01:12:34,440
this point in time where we have

2414
01:12:38,470 --> 01:12:36,480
extraordinary things happening so

2415
01:12:39,590 --> 01:12:38,480
why is this not mainstream you know even

2416
01:12:41,110 --> 01:12:39,600
if you take away

2417
01:12:42,709 --> 01:12:41,120
the aliens and anything i've said you

2418
01:12:45,590 --> 01:12:42,719
know subtract me

2419
01:12:46,870 --> 01:12:45,600
uh talking artifacts reptilians subtract

2420
01:12:48,870 --> 01:12:46,880
all that and just ask

2421
01:12:50,310 --> 01:12:48,880
why is there no nat geo special saying

2422
01:12:51,669 --> 01:12:50,320
you know seven hundred thousand years

2423
01:12:53,590 --> 01:12:51,679
ago you know the time when

2424
01:12:55,590 --> 01:12:53,600
massive asteroids were bombarding earth

2425
01:12:56,470 --> 01:12:55,600
and humans were undergoing brain changes

2426
01:13:01,910 --> 01:12:56,480
and

2427
01:13:03,350 --> 01:13:01,920
why are we not being

2428
01:13:04,790 --> 01:13:03,360
told that why are we not here why am i

2429
01:13:06,630 --> 01:13:04,800
having to find that out from some alien

2430
01:13:07,990 --> 01:13:06,640
you know a book about alien art

2431
01:13:10,630 --> 01:13:08,000
why does it take that for me to hear

2432
01:13:12,950 --> 01:13:10,640
about these things this is insane

2433
01:13:14,310 --> 01:13:12,960
yes it is a good question but of course

2434
01:13:16,229 --> 01:13:14,320
the answer is that

2435
01:13:18,550 --> 01:13:16,239
nat geo is owned and controlled by the

2436
01:13:21,189 --> 01:13:18,560
reptilian crypto terrestrials

2437
01:13:23,110 --> 01:13:21,199
but man you know dial in your time

2438
01:13:24,070 --> 01:13:23,120
machines people because we know exactly

2439
01:13:28,229 --> 01:13:24,080
where we need to go

2440
01:13:31,990 --> 01:13:28,239
now this 780 000 years ago

2441
01:13:34,310 --> 01:13:32,000
this is it but man wow my mind is

2442
01:13:36,550 --> 01:13:34,320
thoroughly blown i feel like we fit four

2443
01:13:38,470 --> 01:13:36,560
hours of content into a two-hour show

2444
01:13:40,070 --> 01:13:38,480
luckily we own the airwaves and can

2445
01:13:42,709 --> 01:13:40,080
start and stop whenever we want but i

2446
01:13:45,270 --> 01:13:42,719
just can't take up people's entire days

2447
01:13:46,950 --> 01:13:45,280
and uh man it was really great to get

2448
01:13:48,790 --> 01:13:46,960
back to an interview like this

2449
01:13:51,030 --> 01:13:48,800
given all the events of 2020. i feel

2450
01:13:53,510 --> 01:13:51,040
like i got that old thc energy back

2451
01:13:55,510 --> 01:13:53,520
so thanks for really bringing the heat

2452
01:13:56,149 --> 01:13:55,520
you are a great dance partner thank you

2453
01:13:57,990 --> 01:13:56,159
and

2454
01:13:59,990 --> 01:13:58,000
before i cut you loose give them the

2455
01:14:02,470 --> 01:14:00,000
rundown of how to get more bruce

2456
01:14:03,189 --> 01:14:02,480
fenton in their lives absolutely i mean

2457
01:14:05,510 --> 01:14:03,199
there is

2458
01:14:07,669 --> 01:14:05,520
they want to interact with me there's a

2459
01:14:09,350 --> 01:14:07,679
sanity warning on that of course

2460
01:14:13,350 --> 01:14:09,360
you can interact with me directly on

2461
01:14:15,430 --> 01:14:14,229
there's exogenesis handle i'm fairly

2462
01:14:17,270 --> 01:14:15,440
interactive probably spent too much time

2463
01:14:18,870 --> 01:14:17,280
there i'm also on facebook don't use a

2464
01:14:19,910 --> 01:14:18,880
lot but you can certainly contact me via

2465
01:14:22,229 --> 01:14:19,920
you know facebook

2466
01:14:23,830 --> 01:14:22,239
i have a few websites ancientnews.net

2467
01:14:25,830 --> 01:14:23,840
which is archaeological mostly

2468
01:14:27,189 --> 01:14:25,840
hybrid humans.net there's a few articles

2469
01:14:28,149 --> 01:14:27,199
about you know extraterrestrial stuff on

2470
01:14:30,990 --> 01:14:28,159
there um

2471
01:14:32,870 --> 01:14:31,000
bruce fenton.info my homepage and

2472
01:14:34,070 --> 01:14:32,880
daniellafenton.com which is my wife's

2473
01:14:35,990 --> 01:14:34,080
kind of professional

2474
01:14:38,310 --> 01:14:36,000
profile for her shamanic and psychical

2475
01:14:39,910 --> 01:14:38,320
work all four of those and the book can

2476
01:14:41,910 --> 01:14:39,920
be found the exchanges book can be found

2477
01:14:43,750 --> 01:14:41,920
you know wherever books are sold

2478
01:14:44,390 --> 01:14:43,760
obviously on amazon and borders and all

2479
01:14:45,590 --> 01:14:44,400
this stuff

2480
01:14:46,950 --> 01:14:45,600
but you should be out in your shop you

2481
01:14:48,550 --> 01:14:46,960
know if you go in the shop and ask them

2482
01:14:49,990 --> 01:14:48,560
you know can they order it for you or

2483
01:14:51,750 --> 01:14:50,000
tell them put it on the shelves which

2484
01:14:53,270 --> 01:14:51,760
would be nice you know it's out there

2485
01:14:55,189 --> 01:14:53,280
already said in the us i think the print

2486
01:14:57,990 --> 01:14:55,199
version is not in europe yet but the

2487
01:14:59,510 --> 01:14:58,000
audio and kindle are so you know it's

2488
01:15:00,790 --> 01:14:59,520
basically kind of everywhere everyone

2489
01:15:01,510 --> 01:15:00,800
down including did the forward was very

2490
01:15:02,950 --> 01:15:01,520
kind of him

2491
01:15:04,550 --> 01:15:02,960
i'm saying it should be in schools i

2492
01:15:06,470 --> 01:15:04,560
don't think the paradigm is quite where

2493
01:15:08,070 --> 01:15:06,480
schools will stock yet but but yeah you

2494
01:15:09,510 --> 01:15:08,080
know hopefully people will check it out

2495
01:15:10,950 --> 01:15:09,520
and i will just add as well there

2496
01:15:11,990 --> 01:15:10,960
because i know people have free stuff

2497
01:15:13,270 --> 01:15:12,000
and it's gonna say you know while you

2498
01:15:14,790 --> 01:15:13,280
write books they cost money

2499
01:15:16,070 --> 01:15:14,800
everything should be free but i mean

2500
01:15:17,990 --> 01:15:16,080
that does mean it cause me starving to

2501
01:15:19,510 --> 01:15:18,000
death in a garbage bin somewhere but

2502
01:15:22,070 --> 01:15:19,520
still i do give out free content so

2503
01:15:24,870 --> 01:15:22,080
there's a movie 780 000

2504
01:15:26,550 --> 01:15:24,880
our alien origin story i still find on

2505
01:15:27,189 --> 01:15:26,560
youtube which is totally free to view

2506
01:15:29,350 --> 01:15:27,199
and that was in

2507
01:15:30,550 --> 01:15:29,360
partnership with alexis skeptico so if

2508
01:15:32,070 --> 01:15:30,560
anyone wants to check that out

2509
01:15:33,350 --> 01:15:32,080
that is available now to see in

2510
01:15:34,550 --> 01:15:33,360
overviews a lot of what we've been

2511
01:15:36,550 --> 01:15:34,560
talking about but with

2512
01:15:37,590 --> 01:15:36,560
documents you know shown on screen and

2513
01:15:40,310 --> 01:15:37,600
stuff so they can have a look

2514
01:15:41,669 --> 01:15:40,320
at that excellent yes i look forward to

2515
01:15:43,510 --> 01:15:41,679
seeing that alex is a good friend of

2516
01:15:45,990 --> 01:15:43,520
ours he does good stuff and

2517
01:15:46,870 --> 01:15:46,000
i can't wait to dive in but man really

2518
01:15:49,430 --> 01:15:46,880
awesome work

2519
01:15:51,270 --> 01:15:49,440
fun and provocative and you make a great

2520
01:15:53,110 --> 01:15:51,280
case for some really epic stuff it's

2521
01:15:55,030 --> 01:15:53,120
very much appreciated we'll have to do

2522
01:15:55,990 --> 01:15:55,040
this again sometime but until then take

2523
01:16:00,470 --> 01:15:56,000
care man

2524
01:16:07,189 --> 01:16:04,229
wow bruce

2525
01:16:08,470 --> 01:16:07,199
fenton bring in the heat now i'm in a

2526
01:16:11,430 --> 01:16:08,480
good mood that was

2527
01:16:13,430 --> 01:16:11,440
a lot of fun i like seeing somebody make

2528
01:16:16,870 --> 01:16:13,440
a compelling case for something

2529
01:16:19,270 --> 01:16:16,880
as far out as an alien mother ship

2530
01:16:21,750 --> 01:16:19,280
exploding in the air over the earth i

2531
01:16:23,910 --> 01:16:21,760
love this sort of history

2532
01:16:24,870 --> 01:16:23,920
and again just like so many shows the

2533
01:16:27,110 --> 01:16:24,880
second hour

2534
01:16:29,030 --> 01:16:27,120
really jumped off when i asked bruce if

2535
01:16:31,110 --> 01:16:29,040
he thinks there's any chance today's

2536
01:16:34,070 --> 01:16:31,120
elite are part of a

2537
01:16:34,950 --> 01:16:34,080
draco lineage or agents of draco

2538
01:16:38,070 --> 01:16:34,960
overlords

2539
01:16:39,430 --> 01:16:38,080
and could a lot of their biotechnocratic

2540
01:16:42,070 --> 01:16:39,440
ideas come

2541
01:16:44,310 --> 01:16:42,080
out of a desire to track some sort of

2542
01:16:47,030 --> 01:16:44,320
dna marker

2543
01:16:48,070 --> 01:16:47,040
well from there it was off to the races

2544
01:16:49,990 --> 01:16:48,080
i did not know

2545
01:16:51,350 --> 01:16:50,000
he was going to be as down with that

2546
01:16:54,470 --> 01:16:51,360
sort of idea

2547
01:16:57,270 --> 01:16:54,480
to the degree that he was and i think he

2548
01:16:58,550 --> 01:16:57,280
crushed his thc appearance about as well

2549
01:17:01,270 --> 01:16:58,560
as he could

2550
01:17:04,470 --> 01:17:01,280
and he talks fast so i feel like we did

2551
01:17:06,790 --> 01:17:04,480
fit four hours into a two-hour show

2552
01:17:09,270 --> 01:17:06,800
i mean telepathic artifacts conscious

2553
01:17:10,550 --> 01:17:09,280
communication from cosmic containers of

2554
01:17:13,510 --> 01:17:10,560
knowledge

2555
01:17:15,430 --> 01:17:13,520
this is pretty unique stuff and so much

2556
01:17:18,470 --> 01:17:15,440
of this kind of material that we hear

2557
01:17:20,790 --> 01:17:18,480
does come back to the same sort of shape

2558
01:17:22,950 --> 01:17:20,800
of an alien race running from another

2559
01:17:25,830 --> 01:17:22,960
alien race in the ancient past

2560
01:17:27,910 --> 01:17:25,840
hiding out on earth seeding their dna

2561
01:17:30,709 --> 01:17:27,920
creating humans

2562
01:17:31,669 --> 01:17:30,719
echoes of this sort of story are always

2563
01:17:35,110 --> 01:17:31,679
coming around

2564
01:17:38,310 --> 01:17:35,120
from one channeler or contact d

2565
01:17:39,030 --> 01:17:38,320
or another if you fold that sort of

2566
01:17:41,750 --> 01:17:39,040
context

2567
01:17:42,630 --> 01:17:41,760
into the angels mating with human women

2568
01:17:45,669 --> 01:17:42,640
thing

2569
01:17:47,750 --> 01:17:45,679
it's all very similar stuff so

2570
01:17:49,669 --> 01:17:47,760
you know let's make it canon already and

2571
01:17:52,310 --> 01:17:49,679
that's what i say

2572
01:17:53,990 --> 01:17:52,320
i also agree with bruce when he says

2573
01:17:55,189 --> 01:17:54,000
it's not an evidence problem it's a

2574
01:17:57,430 --> 01:17:55,199
people problem

2575
01:17:58,709 --> 01:17:57,440
it's an unwillingness to access new

2576
01:18:02,709 --> 01:17:58,719
information

2577
01:18:05,110 --> 01:18:02,719
channels

2578
01:18:07,110 --> 01:18:05,120
obviously that's a big problem in many

2579
01:18:09,270 --> 01:18:07,120
ways right now

2580
01:18:10,870 --> 01:18:09,280
people are just losing their minds out

2581
01:18:13,910 --> 01:18:10,880
there i hope everything's going

2582
01:18:14,470 --> 01:18:13,920
all right for you listeners i'm probably

2583
01:18:17,350 --> 01:18:14,480
gonna get

2584
01:18:17,669 --> 01:18:17,360
repetitive when i say that we've got to

2585
01:18:20,709 --> 01:18:17,679
be

2586
01:18:23,189 --> 01:18:20,719
presenting ourselves as good examples of

2587
01:18:26,229 --> 01:18:23,199
independent alternative thinkers

2588
01:18:28,550 --> 01:18:26,239
we're getting a lot of bad pr right now

2589
01:18:30,149 --> 01:18:28,560
and as much as i do like to watch a good

2590
01:18:32,390 --> 01:18:30,159
public meltdown

2591
01:18:34,550 --> 01:18:32,400
i don't think throwing everything out of

2592
01:18:37,189 --> 01:18:34,560
your cart and screaming at the walmart

2593
01:18:38,310 --> 01:18:37,199
greeter about the pandemic as you storm

2594
01:18:40,790 --> 01:18:38,320
off

2595
01:18:42,630 --> 01:18:40,800
is a very effective strategy to fight

2596
01:18:44,630 --> 01:18:42,640
back against all this

2597
01:18:46,790 --> 01:18:44,640
just like how i imagine you wouldn't

2598
01:18:48,870 --> 01:18:46,800
change that many minds if you started

2599
01:18:50,229 --> 01:18:48,880
dropping 911 truths in the line for

2600
01:18:52,550 --> 01:18:50,239
airport security

2601
01:18:53,669 --> 01:18:52,560
i'm not even saying you're wrong but

2602
01:18:55,750 --> 01:18:53,679
we're up against the most

2603
01:18:57,750 --> 01:18:55,760
effective and highly refined propaganda

2604
01:18:58,870 --> 01:18:57,760
machine this round of human history has

2605
01:19:01,430 --> 01:18:58,880
known

2606
01:19:02,470 --> 01:19:01,440
and i don't even know if we can win but

2607
01:19:05,750 --> 01:19:02,480
i doubt

2608
01:19:06,550 --> 01:19:05,760
that's how it happens if we do i tend to

2609
01:19:09,750 --> 01:19:06,560
think that

2610
01:19:11,830 --> 01:19:09,760
calmness and stability plus time

2611
01:19:13,750 --> 01:19:11,840
is what does it it's what gets people to

2612
01:19:15,910 --> 01:19:13,760
change their minds

2613
01:19:18,470 --> 01:19:15,920
lies can't last forever and that's as

2614
01:19:20,149 --> 01:19:18,480
true for history as it is for anything

2615
01:19:22,550 --> 01:19:20,159
and i do have faith that when the

2616
01:19:24,870 --> 01:19:22,560
capstone cabal plays a big hand

2617
01:19:27,270 --> 01:19:24,880
like a once in a decade hand or a once a

2618
01:19:29,910 --> 01:19:27,280
century hand for that matter

2619
01:19:30,550 --> 01:19:29,920
it takes time but the number of people

2620
01:19:33,270 --> 01:19:30,560
who

2621
01:19:34,950 --> 01:19:33,280
lose their trust in the empire and all

2622
01:19:37,669 --> 01:19:34,960
of its institutions

2623
01:19:39,830 --> 01:19:37,679
will grow the amount of people who see

2624
01:19:42,470 --> 01:19:39,840
it for what it is or at least

2625
01:19:45,030 --> 01:19:42,480
consider the whole system incompetent

2626
01:19:47,990 --> 01:19:45,040
and its experts incompetent

2627
01:19:48,790 --> 01:19:48,000
will increase and we should make those

2628
01:19:51,510 --> 01:19:48,800
people feel

2629
01:19:52,790 --> 01:19:51,520
welcome in this new reality and not

2630
01:19:54,149 --> 01:19:52,800
alone

2631
01:19:56,390 --> 01:19:54,159
and let them know that we don't trust

2632
01:19:57,669 --> 01:19:56,400
the president either despite the picture

2633
01:20:00,870 --> 01:19:57,679
painted by pretty much

2634
01:20:02,790 --> 01:20:00,880
all media but in higher side news the

2635
01:20:03,510 --> 01:20:02,800
last of the traditional joint session

2636
01:20:06,310 --> 01:20:03,520
videos

2637
01:20:07,270 --> 01:20:06,320
is up on the plus member bonus content

2638
01:20:10,790 --> 01:20:07,280
page

2639
01:20:12,629 --> 01:20:10,800
we will still have a monthly

2640
01:20:14,310 --> 01:20:12,639
joint session maybe it needs a new name

2641
01:20:16,870 --> 01:20:14,320
now but it still

2642
01:20:17,990 --> 01:20:16,880
sort of applies because it's a solo

2643
01:20:19,430 --> 01:20:18,000
podcast episode

2644
01:20:21,990 --> 01:20:19,440
that i'll do every month for plus

2645
01:20:23,990 --> 01:20:22,000
members based on the material posted

2646
01:20:25,669 --> 01:20:24,000
in the joint session forum thread so

2647
01:20:28,470 --> 01:20:25,679
it's still

2648
01:20:30,149 --> 01:20:28,480
a combined effort that's where the joint

2649
01:20:32,229 --> 01:20:30,159
comes in

2650
01:20:33,750 --> 01:20:32,239
but there's also a q a thread if you

2651
01:20:35,590 --> 01:20:33,760
have a question for me

2652
01:20:37,669 --> 01:20:35,600
and then there is a separate joint

2653
01:20:39,910 --> 01:20:37,679
session thread for your own theories and

2654
01:20:41,590 --> 01:20:39,920
wild experiences and anything else you

2655
01:20:44,149 --> 01:20:41,600
might want to relay

2656
01:20:46,070 --> 01:20:44,159
to the plus members at large content for

2657
01:20:47,669 --> 01:20:46,080
me to talk about

2658
01:20:49,350 --> 01:20:47,679
i've been told by a lot of people they

2659
01:20:49,990 --> 01:20:49,360
have interesting things to share but

2660
01:20:51,750 --> 01:20:50,000
they either

2661
01:20:53,270 --> 01:20:51,760
can't make the live stream because of

2662
01:20:55,350 --> 01:20:53,280
work or something

2663
01:20:57,669 --> 01:20:55,360
or they're too nervous to talk on the

2664
01:20:59,750 --> 01:20:57,679
fly or they couldn't get called on

2665
01:21:01,270 --> 01:20:59,760
because i let six people take up three

2666
01:21:03,030 --> 01:21:01,280
hours

2667
01:21:05,590 --> 01:21:03,040
that does happen and i'm sorry it is

2668
01:21:08,470 --> 01:21:05,600
just the nature of taking calls

2669
01:21:10,550 --> 01:21:08,480
i don't want to be rude i'm the host so

2670
01:21:12,550 --> 01:21:10,560
this way with this new format i think we

2671
01:21:13,990 --> 01:21:12,560
get more people involved and it will be

2672
01:21:16,550 --> 01:21:14,000
easier to digest if it's

2673
01:21:17,270 --> 01:21:16,560
already in your podcast feed and i'm

2674
01:21:19,189 --> 01:21:17,280
reading

2675
01:21:20,390 --> 01:21:19,199
and editing the whole thing down like

2676
01:21:23,030 --> 01:21:20,400
normal

2677
01:21:24,550 --> 01:21:23,040
so that's what we're doing there it is

2678
01:21:27,750 --> 01:21:24,560
so go on in and fill that

2679
01:21:29,750 --> 01:21:27,760
forum up with stuff for me remember even

2680
01:21:33,270 --> 01:21:29,760
if you were just a plus member for

2681
01:21:34,229 --> 01:21:33,280
a month or two years ago your forum

2682
01:21:37,110 --> 01:21:34,239
login

2683
01:21:38,709 --> 01:21:37,120
still works it is forever so if you ever

2684
01:21:40,070 --> 01:21:38,719
gave me just eight bucks

2685
01:21:42,709 --> 01:21:40,080
you can still get in there and

2686
01:21:45,030 --> 01:21:42,719
participate in those threads

2687
01:21:46,950 --> 01:21:45,040
i'm also going to probably read some of

2688
01:21:48,470 --> 01:21:46,960
the harshest feedback that i get in

2689
01:21:50,550 --> 01:21:48,480
these joint session

2690
01:21:52,229 --> 01:21:50,560
podcast shows just because there's

2691
01:21:54,830 --> 01:21:52,239
something funny about a person reading

2692
01:21:57,590 --> 01:21:54,840
the nasty things people say about them

2693
01:21:59,750 --> 01:21:57,600
firsthand we can make comedy

2694
01:22:01,030 --> 01:21:59,760
out of the venom and that's alchemy

2695
01:22:04,149 --> 01:22:01,040
right

2696
01:22:05,110 --> 01:22:04,159
but that is the show big thanks to bruce

2697
01:22:06,790 --> 01:22:05,120
he is the man

2698
01:22:09,510 --> 01:22:06,800
of course the first hour had a lot of

2699
01:22:11,910 --> 01:22:09,520
great stuff i wanted to make sure that

2700
01:22:13,750 --> 01:22:11,920
we got through bruce's complete case for

2701
01:22:16,390 --> 01:22:13,760
this 780

2702
01:22:17,830 --> 01:22:16,400
000 year old event and then in the plush

2703
01:22:19,189 --> 01:22:17,840
show like i mentioned it got pretty

2704
01:22:21,590 --> 01:22:19,199
classic thc

2705
01:22:23,990 --> 01:22:21,600
and pretty conspiratorial but we talked

2706
01:22:27,430 --> 01:22:24,000
about stuff like indigenous knowledge

2707
01:22:29,030 --> 01:22:27,440
alien engineered retroviruses the alien

2708
01:22:32,030 --> 01:22:29,040
octopi

2709
01:22:33,189 --> 01:22:32,040
cosmic radiation and genetic mutation

2710
01:22:36,950 --> 01:22:33,199
biophotons

2711
01:22:40,310 --> 01:22:36,960
light dna and the elite reptilians

2712
01:22:41,750 --> 01:22:40,320
crypto terrestrials dracoist elite

2713
01:22:44,629 --> 01:22:41,760
sacrifice

2714
01:22:46,629 --> 01:22:44,639
bloodline tracing agendas of the elite

2715
01:22:48,310 --> 01:22:46,639
and all kinds of uh

2716
01:22:49,990 --> 01:22:48,320
really interesting stuff maybe better

2717
01:22:52,070 --> 01:22:50,000
for the inner circle so

2718
01:22:53,270 --> 01:22:52,080
sign up for plus if you want to hear my

2719
01:22:57,270 --> 01:22:53,280
full interviews

2720
01:23:00,070 --> 01:22:57,280
or just listen to the first hour ad free

2721
01:23:01,110 --> 01:23:00,080
and tell your friends if you would be so

2722
01:23:03,510 --> 01:23:01,120
bold

2723
01:23:04,790 --> 01:23:03,520
either way it's all good but that said

2724
01:23:07,590 --> 01:23:04,800
i'm getting out of here

2725
01:23:09,189 --> 01:23:07,600
if by chance you do live in san diego

2726
01:23:11,430 --> 01:23:09,199
and you happen to hear this episode in

2727
01:23:13,910 --> 01:23:11,440
the first few hours it's released

2728
01:23:15,910 --> 01:23:13,920
and you're free tonight our good friend

2729
01:23:17,750 --> 01:23:15,920
sam tripoli will be performing at the

2730
01:23:20,950 --> 01:23:17,760
american comedy company

2731
01:23:21,990 --> 01:23:20,960
outside that's cool and in fact to get

2732
01:23:26,470 --> 01:23:22,000
around

2733
01:23:29,189 --> 01:23:26,480
which businesses can

2734
01:23:31,189 --> 01:23:29,199
and can't operate it's important to say

2735
01:23:33,030 --> 01:23:31,199
that the american comedy company in san

2736
01:23:36,070 --> 01:23:33,040
diego is not doing live

2737
01:23:40,709 --> 01:23:36,080
comedy shows that would be irresponsible

2738
01:23:43,990 --> 01:23:40,719
they're hosting live comedic protests

2739
01:23:46,470 --> 01:23:44,000
loopholes right but hey sam has a

2740
01:23:48,550 --> 01:23:46,480
seven and a nine o'clock show i'll

2741
01:23:50,070 --> 01:23:48,560
probably be hanging around in between

2742
01:23:53,030 --> 01:23:50,080
them or after

2743
01:23:53,590 --> 01:23:53,040
so come say hey if you're one of those

2744
01:23:56,629 --> 01:23:53,600
like

2745
01:23:58,550 --> 01:23:56,639
10 people or so listening that

2746
01:24:00,229 --> 01:23:58,560
will meet those previously mentioned

2747
01:24:02,149 --> 01:24:00,239
prerequisites

2748
01:24:03,669 --> 01:24:02,159
but big thanks to bruce again i had a

2749
01:24:04,470 --> 01:24:03,679
lot of fun thanks to you guys for

2750
01:24:06,790 --> 01:24:04,480
listening

2751
01:24:08,470 --> 01:24:06,800
he also has that new documentary that

2752
01:24:11,750 --> 01:24:08,480
summarizes this work

2753
01:24:14,550 --> 01:24:11,760
as well with visuals put out now on

2754
01:24:16,550 --> 01:24:14,560
alex's skeptico channel do check that

2755
01:24:19,110 --> 01:24:16,560
out if you like a little more

2756
01:24:21,669 --> 01:24:19,120
and i'll see you next time your move

2757
01:24:24,550 --> 01:24:21,679
ancient alien overlords dna seeders and